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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Jeffery family, gardiners from Kent
« on: Sunday 17 October 21 22:07 BST (UK)  »
Thankyou for the info , will try and see if any names for my narrative ,
 Regarding Steed  , it was reported either in country life or through other publications that his Stibbington Hall was left to his daughter by his widow - and then by marriage to John Alexander Vipan, but his wife's predeceased him and all daughters were already happily married , notes not tying up properly ,
 Anyway will get back to you if anything comes up, Cheers.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Jeffery family, gardiners from Kent
« on: Sunday 17 October 21 10:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Annette, looks like complete separate families then which makes it easier !,
 Just to wonder therefore why an Ely solicitor would choose to buy 31/80s share of 800 acres around Wadhurst , and then leave it to his daughters.
 The will only stated Sussex though while all other purchases were given by village , perhaps there's more land to be found!
 Dave

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Jeffery family, gardiners from Kent
« on: Sunday 17 October 21 00:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi , just found your post in relation to Girdlestones around Wadhurst,

It seems Steed Girdlestone and his partner John Bellamy were land owning Solicitors from Wisbech - Norfolk and held about 800 acres around that area , for some reason . they had much more local land to them  in Norfolk and the Isle of Ely which would have been a lot easier to keep reigns on.

 twitched an interest with Elizabeth Stone - his second wife was Sarah Stone and they had a daughter Sarah Stone G'stone  - if you have any ideas since the original post or know why he would be interested in these lands would love to hear [ or maybe i can give you some pointers ] , Regards.

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Travelling People / Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« on: Monday 05 June 17 21:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tracey - thanks for getting back to me,
 It's been bit of a tough ride all round to find this family and any real locked positions.
what we do have fixed is our Gt Grandmother Abgael Bird , bn 1872 in chatteris and married Hiram Wilson abt 1897 - they have 15 ish kids in norfolk and have only found them at the earliest on 1911 census so not sure where they were until then.

Abgael's Parents are William Bird, and Caroline / Lena Loveridge born 1857 in Hemel Hempstead and appear first in 1901
Caroline's parents i have as Thomas Loveridge born 1831 in bedfordhire and Susan Parker bn 1831 in Bucks.

I have very little info for these guys and any further up partially due to no censuses then,and its out of my area, so have tried to make the best of what info i can find , if any certainties come up for or against this pattern i would like to get it right as good as i can - i havent got time to write a pretend story.

What i do also think correct is another daughter of Caroline and William- [ so Abgaels Sister ]
Cinderella Loveridge Bird , born 1892 in Peterborough and married Otey Thorpe in 1908 in Long Sutton, Lincolnshire - Otey being son of Ambrose Thorpe and Leviathan / Elizabeth Draper.
Cinder's has 4 children - Leviathan, Tennis , William and Caroline

hope this makes sense!!
Regards , Dave

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Travelling People / Norfolk Loveridge families
« on: Friday 02 June 17 22:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi can i add an info request please , i've got two loveridge travelling families in my daughters tree , one each from my and the wife's sides , both from norfolk/cambs area and would like to find a link between if poss .
Mine : Kenneth W Loveridge and 5 siblings including sister Syberetta , children of Robert Loveridge and Louisa Banham , Robert himself son of James L.
Wifes : 4G GM is Caroline / Lena Loveridge who married William Bird. Caroline daughter of Thomas L and Susan Parker born Hemel Hempstaed in 1857.
 I think this Thomas is one of upto 3 or 4 kids to William L and Trainett Davis.
any info to concur this or connect the two would be great to find , or slightly worrying for a girl showing ' the gift' on occasions , Thanks.

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Family Historian 5 vs Legacy 8
« on: Friday 21 November 14 19:13 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Guys - will give it a go

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Travelling People / Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« on: Friday 21 November 14 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to everyone for their help with the Harris's Grays and Wilsons,

 story unravelling well now , clave

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Family History Programs, Tree Organisation, Presentation / Re: Family Historian 5 vs Legacy 8
« on: Tuesday 18 November 14 23:42 GMT (UK)  »
Question for all - i am still using Easytree from the generations grandsuite [ ca 2000 ] , because it does all i want and i like to keep my stuff separate - are there any progs that will import the database and preserve individual's Id's ?

Thanks , Clave

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Travelling People / Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« on: Friday 23 January 09 20:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all , well we had a look at the census and found our GG Gfather Hiram Wilson , a Hawker in Jin ware who appears to have been born in 1862 in Lowestoft , and was married to Abgael , possibly Bird born 1872 maybe in Chatteris , Cambs
 They were all living in 2 Traveller vans in North Walsham , Ridlington Heath

They have 13 kids living with them : ages at 1911 - they were all listed as of unknown Birthplace and we couldn't find any of them on the bmd yet

Hiram  20
Wiphe 19
Sishe  17
Robert 15
Alas   14
Abgael 13
Tilda   12
William  11
Joseph  10
Polly   7
Agnes  4
Miney   2
Mark    3month

Agnes is our GMother , and possibly Polly could be one of the witnesses to her marriage if she later married a Mr Harris , will have to follow up if we can

This appears to be the correct Hiram for our records , and ages fit well - its just strange we havent found any reference to him anywhere else before ? any ideas anyone

     Clave

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