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Fermanagh / Re: kirwan
« on: Friday 29 April 16 00:04 BST (UK) »
Good point.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Fermanagh / Re: kirwan
« on: Thursday 28 April 16 21:41 BST (UK) »
What of the August marriage ? There is a lot of similarities between both with the exception of witnesses & place of marriage.
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Fermanagh / Re: kirwan
« on: Wednesday 27 April 16 22:10 BST (UK) »
Hi aghadowey,
Have tried searching Ellen Slevin in 1901 census, but have had no luck finding her. Did though do a search for marriage & came across 2 possibles or 2 of same marriage at different time of year & different church. Is this possible ?
Both 1906. 1st in May to Thomas Gilroy age 22yrs & entered as Labourer. Living in Derryadd. Father : John Gilroy ( labourer ).
Ellen is entered as living in Breakey, Lisbellaw age 22yrs & Servant. Father :Thomas Slevin ( Labourer ) Lisnaskea registrars office.
2nd in August to Thomas Gilroy sage 22yrs & entered as Farmer. Living in Derryadd. Father : John Gilroy ( Farmer Decd )
Ellen is entered as living in Mulnadoran, No age given & occupation given as Lady. Father : Thomas Slevin ( Living )
Newtonbutler R.C. Chapel.
On checking 1901 census for Thomas, he is living with mother in Derryadd as a Agricultural labourer & Mother : Margaret age 74yrs is entered as not married.
Also in 1901 census Thomas Slevin ( Father ) was living in Mulnadoran.
On checking 1911 census Thomas & Ellen are found residing in Lisbellaw Town with 2 children.
However Thomas is aged 37 yrs & Ellen26 yrs, both been married 5 yrs. ( age could be an error ? )
Other coincidence 1st child named Maggie Jane ( 3yrs )..possibly after both grandmothers. 2nd child Cathleen ( 2mths ).
Is it possible both marriages are of the same ppl & what is the probability that Ellen is the Ellen i am looking for. Not sure how else to be certain this is her ? Any ideas or thoughts ?
Have tried searching Ellen Slevin in 1901 census, but have had no luck finding her. Did though do a search for marriage & came across 2 possibles or 2 of same marriage at different time of year & different church. Is this possible ?
Both 1906. 1st in May to Thomas Gilroy age 22yrs & entered as Labourer. Living in Derryadd. Father : John Gilroy ( labourer ).
Ellen is entered as living in Breakey, Lisbellaw age 22yrs & Servant. Father :Thomas Slevin ( Labourer ) Lisnaskea registrars office.
2nd in August to Thomas Gilroy sage 22yrs & entered as Farmer. Living in Derryadd. Father : John Gilroy ( Farmer Decd )
Ellen is entered as living in Mulnadoran, No age given & occupation given as Lady. Father : Thomas Slevin ( Living )
Newtonbutler R.C. Chapel.
On checking 1901 census for Thomas, he is living with mother in Derryadd as a Agricultural labourer & Mother : Margaret age 74yrs is entered as not married.
Also in 1901 census Thomas Slevin ( Father ) was living in Mulnadoran.
On checking 1911 census Thomas & Ellen are found residing in Lisbellaw Town with 2 children.
However Thomas is aged 37 yrs & Ellen26 yrs, both been married 5 yrs. ( age could be an error ? )
Other coincidence 1st child named Maggie Jane ( 3yrs )..possibly after both grandmothers. 2nd child Cathleen ( 2mths ).
Is it possible both marriages are of the same ppl & what is the probability that Ellen is the Ellen i am looking for. Not sure how else to be certain this is her ? Any ideas or thoughts ?
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Fermanagh / Re: kirwan
« on: Tuesday 26 April 16 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks aghadowey.
Sure i got info off IFHF, must have been transcript error. Either that or i should have gone to speck savers. lol
Sure i got info off IFHF, must have been transcript error. Either that or i should have gone to speck savers. lol
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Fermanagh / Re: kirwan
« on: Friday 12 February 16 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Slev, Gaffy.
My G/Grandfather was Patrick Slevin brother of James Slevin.
As far as i've been able to ascertain Patrick was the oldest ( b.1881 ). Then there was Allan (b.1883 ) , think he may have died early as cannot find any mention in census. James (b.1886) came next followed by Mary Jane (b.1888 ). The following were also siblings Thomas (b.1891 ), Joseph (b.1893), Margaret Anne (b.1894 ),Catherine (b.1896 ) & finally Francis (b.1901 ).
Parents of Patrick & James were Thomas Slevin & Mary Jane Meehan. Mary Jane Meehan died i believe before 1911 census & Thomas remarried in 1910 to Marianne ( Mary Ann) Halpin in 1910.
Patrick moved to Glasgow in 1900/1901 & up until now i assumed everyone else remained in Fermanagh.
My G/Grandfather was Patrick Slevin brother of James Slevin.
As far as i've been able to ascertain Patrick was the oldest ( b.1881 ). Then there was Allan (b.1883 ) , think he may have died early as cannot find any mention in census. James (b.1886) came next followed by Mary Jane (b.1888 ). The following were also siblings Thomas (b.1891 ), Joseph (b.1893), Margaret Anne (b.1894 ),Catherine (b.1896 ) & finally Francis (b.1901 ).
Parents of Patrick & James were Thomas Slevin & Mary Jane Meehan. Mary Jane Meehan died i believe before 1911 census & Thomas remarried in 1910 to Marianne ( Mary Ann) Halpin in 1910.
Patrick moved to Glasgow in 1900/1901 & up until now i assumed everyone else remained in Fermanagh.
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Antrim / Re: mcalister
« on: Thursday 23 January 14 02:12 GMT (UK) »
I stand corrected aghadowey. When mentioning 13 children ,i had in fact counted son Robert's children and not Father Charles' children which had amounted to 11.
Had not listed ones that i had located Mary, Robert Ezekiel & John (1849).
It was a while ago that i found the doc on line and it was for 1851 and the area mentioned was Glenmakeeran. Charles if i remember correctly was entered as Shepherd. Although in other records he has been mentioned as gamekeeper and servant.
Robert McAlister (1859) is my g/grandfather and as such have located ALL census records and births for his children as well as DC and MC for all this family as well as next generation. With a few exceptions i have up to present day.
Mary McAlister(1861) at time of writing topic had thought left for U.S.A. but was later corrected and had remained in Ireland , Turnaroan (The Fair Head ). Her son Charles had left for U.S. and this is where i had made mistake.
Have not been able to locate Mary Ann ( Stewart ) DC yet.
the Query #86 that you mention i have read and from this i was able to gather the info concerning Mary given above. This Query transpired to be from Mary McAlister / Charles McKiernan's grand daughter who resides in U.S. Unfortunatly she like me has been having trouble tracking down family members, and she has been doing it for a coonciderable time longer than myself. She was however able to give me info on the McKiernan side of family.
Was not aware of Mary Waters (Donoughy) having had a child from previous marriage, if i'm honest it hadn't even entered my mind the possibility of there being a child from this marriage.
As for the Townland 'Terard' being ' Tenaghs', that is a bit of good news, being that Terard seemingly did not exist.
Had not listed ones that i had located Mary, Robert Ezekiel & John (1849).
It was a while ago that i found the doc on line and it was for 1851 and the area mentioned was Glenmakeeran. Charles if i remember correctly was entered as Shepherd. Although in other records he has been mentioned as gamekeeper and servant.
Robert McAlister (1859) is my g/grandfather and as such have located ALL census records and births for his children as well as DC and MC for all this family as well as next generation. With a few exceptions i have up to present day.
Mary McAlister(1861) at time of writing topic had thought left for U.S.A. but was later corrected and had remained in Ireland , Turnaroan (The Fair Head ). Her son Charles had left for U.S. and this is where i had made mistake.
Have not been able to locate Mary Ann ( Stewart ) DC yet.
the Query #86 that you mention i have read and from this i was able to gather the info concerning Mary given above. This Query transpired to be from Mary McAlister / Charles McKiernan's grand daughter who resides in U.S. Unfortunatly she like me has been having trouble tracking down family members, and she has been doing it for a coonciderable time longer than myself. She was however able to give me info on the McKiernan side of family.
Was not aware of Mary Waters (Donoughy) having had a child from previous marriage, if i'm honest it hadn't even entered my mind the possibility of there being a child from this marriage.
As for the Townland 'Terard' being ' Tenaghs', that is a bit of good news, being that Terard seemingly did not exist.
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Aberdeenshire / Re: Keith
« on: Thursday 23 January 14 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes he was in Upper Canada (Ontario) in 1852. Think he married Helen Lumsden there, but no marriage cert. She went by the name of Ellen Philips(Previous married name). She and her children of which 2 are his, do not turn up again in census' until 1861. Have all the details concerning William T Keith and the numerous things he got up to as well as al his children from both relationships.
His father William Keith is the one i am trying to find details on as well as his mother mary taylor.
In Upper Canada William T is entered as Taylor William K, Innkeeper, Scotland, W.P, 25, M.
When he went there i do not know, who he went with i don't know either but it's a good possibility he went there with parents and possibly siblings.
His father William Keith is the one i am trying to find details on as well as his mother mary taylor.
In Upper Canada William T is entered as Taylor William K, Innkeeper, Scotland, W.P, 25, M.
When he went there i do not know, who he went with i don't know either but it's a good possibility he went there with parents and possibly siblings.