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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Saturday 07 October 17 23:04 BST (UK) »
I don't believe it had anything to do with her mother as she died whilst still married to Harry Simmonds.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 23:06 BST (UK) »As she describes herself as spinster, then the implication is that she took the name Newton, but did not actually marry a Mr Newton.
To which, I suppose, I will never find an answer.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Thursday 05 October 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
I have received the marriage certificate from Staffordshire County Council, good service to receive after just four days.
The majority of the entry points to this being the Dorothy Simmonds from my tree. The age is correct, the father is Harry Simmonds (deceased) and his given profession as General Labourer matches that of his death certificate.
Her given name reads: Dorothy Newton formerly known as Dorothy Simmonds and her condition is listed as Spinster.
All the other details of her that I have, and her family, have been based in the Macclesfield area, but by now (1953) she is residing in Newcastle-under-Lyme with her and Joseph both listing the same address on the certificate.
One of the witnesses is obviously related by name to Joseph Millward, the other means nothing.
I'm not sure this takes me anywhere.
The majority of the entry points to this being the Dorothy Simmonds from my tree. The age is correct, the father is Harry Simmonds (deceased) and his given profession as General Labourer matches that of his death certificate.
Her given name reads: Dorothy Newton formerly known as Dorothy Simmonds and her condition is listed as Spinster.
All the other details of her that I have, and her family, have been based in the Macclesfield area, but by now (1953) she is residing in Newcastle-under-Lyme with her and Joseph both listing the same address on the certificate.
One of the witnesses is obviously related by name to Joseph Millward, the other means nothing.
I'm not sure this takes me anywhere.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Monday 02 October 17 23:48 BST (UK) »Just for background, one of Dorothy's siblings:
Births Mar 1930
Albert Simmonds mmn Tomkinson Macclesfield 8a 184
Deaths Mar 1930
Albert Simmonds 0 Macclesfield 8a 196
and the other?
Births Sep 1928
May Simmonds mmn Tomkinson Macclesfield 8a 191
Marriages Sep 1948
George Bowers Macclesfield 10a 1017
May Simmonds Macclesfield 10a 1017
Death
May Bowers born 21st July 1928
Died December 1983 - Macclesfield, Cheshire, England
That is correct as to my research. May had two sons that I have been unable to locate.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Monday 02 October 17 19:47 BST (UK) »baldangel,
Are you saying that you know the children from the marriage, and they show the mother's maiden name as Newton, not Simmonds?
No, I don't know for sure. I have been through the Staffordshire Births index and found a couple of Millward births with the mother's maiden name listed as Newton, but none as Simmonds.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Monday 02 October 17 10:57 BST (UK) »I can't spot a Simmonds/Newton marriage
Staffordshire BMD marriage index shows same
Civil Marriage (Newcastle-Under-Lyme)
MILLWARD J NEWTON Dorothy
MILLWARD J SIMMONDS Dorothy
NEWTON Dorothy MILLWARD J
SIMMONDS Dorothy MILLWARD J
Remarriage
Where the lady is remarrying and both her maiden name and former married name are on the entry in the register, then both are listed in the indexes.
It is not possible to tell from the indexes which is the maiden name.
From all my other details that I have, I can be sure that her maiden name was Simmonds. That's if you can be 100% sure of anything in this research. 🤔
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Simmonds or Newton
« on: Monday 02 October 17 00:18 BST (UK) »Can you find her married to a Newton prior to her marriage to Joseph?
Jamjar
Nothing comes up with a first look on FreeBMD
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Family History Beginners Board / Simmonds or Newton
« on: Sunday 01 October 17 23:32 BST (UK) »
Researching Dorothy Simmonds who married Joseph Millward in December 1953. The entry on FreeBMD shows Dorothy listed as Simmonds or Newton. Why would it carry that second name? She was a witness to her sister's wedding as Simmonds and the notifier to her father's death as Simmonds.
But further to this, I kind find two births from the marriage where the mother's name is listed as Newton.
I have ordered the marriage certificate, but am impatient to know the answer and not sure the marriage certificate would explain it anyway.
But further to this, I kind find two births from the marriage where the mother's name is listed as Newton.
I have ordered the marriage certificate, but am impatient to know the answer and not sure the marriage certificate would explain it anyway.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Choosing which root
« on: Sunday 20 August 17 22:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I will follow your leads up. It is very difficult as a relative beginner to get your head around the discrepancy in spellings of names.