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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Monday 23 July 07 11:50 BST (UK)  »
William Birkin age 21 son of Luke Birkin married Sarah Leivers age 21 daughter of Emmanuel Leivers at Basford register office 28th November 1863. Witnessed by James Tigley & Edwin Platts.
Sarah's death from phthis ( pulmonary tuberculosis ) was registered on 1st Janurary 1870.
Thanks for your interest,
Roy Birkin.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Monday 16 July 07 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Will do.
Roy

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Sunday 15 July 07 21:25 BST (UK)  »
The information I received about Elizabeth Mary & Arthur came from a new contact who by my judgment seems to be pretty reliable.
This person had only recently become aware of the existence of Moses.
I have researched the family of Moses for some years and never found anything that suggested he had any siblings. I do not know of of any of my relatives who are descended from either Elizabeth Mary or Arthur and allways believed Sarah was the daughter of John Leivers. Just to clarify Moses was raised by Williams parents.
I am just about to order certificate for the marriage of william & Sarah.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Sunday 15 July 07 15:18 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your suggestion Heather, I will keep it in mind.
Regards,
Roy.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Sunday 15 July 07 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all your help Mary, I will order a copy of marriage certificate Basford 7b 253 Dec 1863 for William & Sarah and let you know the outcome.
Regards,
Roy.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Sunday 15 July 07 01:20 BST (UK)  »
I will take you back to where the confusion begins :-
My findings.
Sarah b. c1840 was the daughter of John Leivers & Christiana Meakin.
1861. Sarah was with brother-in-law John Barton & Wife Mary Leivers.
1863. Sarah married William Birkin.
1868. Moses born.
1870. Sarah died.

Alternative suggested by another researcher.
Sarah b. c1840 was the daughter of Emmanuel Leivers & Mary Guyler.
1861. Sarah was with grandfather William Guyler.
1863. Sarah married William Birkin.
1865. Elizabeth Mary born.
1868. Arthur born.
1870. Sarah died.

 I have no certificates for Elizabeth Mary or Arthur as they have only recently become known to me.
In a previous message I doubted Arthur & Moses could have the same mother because of their birth dates, however I found a birth registered June 1867 for Arthur Birking who I believe is the son of Sarah making it possible for her to be the mother of all three children.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Saturday 14 July 07 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your further reply .
Moses's b/c names his parents as Sarah Leivers & William Birkin he was raised by Williams parents.
Elizabeth & Arthurs father was William Birkin and they were raised by Emmanuel Leivers which suggests he was Sarahs father rather than him being John Leivers.
I have a marriage registered for William & Sarah and will take your advice and obtain a copy of the certificate.
Regards,
Roy.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Birkin Family.
« on: Friday 13 July 07 19:02 BST (UK)  »
Thank you MaryA for all your information. As you do mention the marriage of William Birkin ( my grgrandfather ) to Sarah Leivers and the doubts about the authenticity perhaps a more full explanation of my problem may enable you to help me further.
I was always under the impression that Sarah was the daughter of John Leivers & Cristiana Meakin and had one child Moses ( my grandfather ) for who I have the B.C. born 2/12/1868 at Newthope. Sarah died 1870 and Moses was raised by his grandparents Luke & Elizabeth Birkin at Eastwood. I have since found a William Birkin married Sarah Leivers daughter of Emmanuel Leivers & Mary Guyler. They had two chldren Mary Elizabeth born march qrt 1865 & Arthur Henry born Sep qrt 1868. Elizabeth and Arthur were raised by their grandparents Emmanuel and Mary Guyler. The problem I have is that I know for sure Moses was born Dec 1868 thus making it impossible for Arthur Henry to be born Sep qrt 1868.
Thanks again for you help,
Roy.

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Nottingham Completed Lookup Requests / Birkin Family.
« on: Friday 13 July 07 15:12 BST (UK)  »
I would appreciate any later information about Arthur Birkin b. 1868 Eastwood. a servant living with William Banner at Greasley in 1881 and Elizabeth Mary Birkin b.1865 Eastwood  a servant living with William Vickers at Nottingham in 1881.
Thank you,
Roy Birkin.

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