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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Monday 15 September 14 16:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
My great aunt Jane Wynne, as a widow Jane Guest aged 64 living in St Georges Hill, Everton married James McCarte in July 1927.
I have been unable to find any details of him except on their marriage certificate his occupation is "Cinema Fireman"  Does anyone know what this means?

Keith

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Saturday 02 August 14 13:59 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Sue,
Thankyou for your last message. I have looked up what information I have about Edith Wynne, sister of Thomas.
When she was 35 years old she left Liverpool for USA on the Baltic, arriving Ellis Island on 19th October 1912, her sponsor/friend was Mrs (Mr) Dealey of 139 East 19th St, NY.
In 1921 she met up with Peter and his friend.
In 1927 she returned to Liverpool for the second marriage of her widowed sister Jane to James McCarte. She appears on their marriage certificate as witness Edith Marano.
Incidently (and of no great interest) the ship Baltic was a sister ship to the Titanic which had sunk some months before Edith sailed!
Now I am about to try to make the definitive family tree but hope I may come back to you to help fill in the gaps.
Best wishes
Keith

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Friday 01 August 14 13:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue,

Maude's father Thomas (b1868 in Chirk, d1954 Liverpool) married Catherine Maude Gray (b1869 Liverpool d1947 Liverpool) had daughter Catherine Maude (b1897 Liverpool d?) who married Peter Bartolomei in Liverpool. Peter left for USA in 1921 to stay with aunt Edith (sister of Thomas) now living in USA married to ? Marano. Catherine Maude followed with children in 1922.
The mother of Catherine Maude Gray also came from Chirk.
Kind regards
Keith

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Thursday 31 July 14 10:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello Sue,
It was a lovely surprise to receive your Rootschat message, I had thought the topic had ground to a halt. The last postings I have date from July 2012 and I had been in contact with Joan Black in USA. I sent her copies of the part of the Wynne family trees I thought were relevant, but I never heard if they were received. I put this down to my very poor computer expertise which meant they never reached her.

Your information about the Bartolomei family has opened another chapter for us. My wife Ann has been busy with the web site and has now been able to add another couple of pages to the family tree.
It's wonderful to be able to get back to the early Wynnes and see how the marriage of Thomas Wynne and Catherine Gray led to our connection to the Bartolomei's.
I am nearly 81 years, born and raised in Chirk (now living in Gloucestershire) and am old enough to remember several of the Wynne family such as Thomas the ex-policeman, Ginny, Hannah and I recall my mother speaking of meeting Maude and Edith when they came over from the USA, and Peter who wore shoes with a decorative style which really impressed the folk of the mining village of Chirk.

I think we're able now to fit in most of the information you gave us so thankyou very much. We were unaware of many names you mentioned such as Joyce for example.
Now I'll take a long look at it and no doubt will find something to ask. Do you know if any of the Bartolomei family still live in Liverpool or in the UK?

With very best wishes
Keith

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Armed Forces / Cup Winners Medal 53rd Welsh
« on: Saturday 26 April 14 14:09 BST (UK)  »
Looking through a box of assorted coins and medals which I found in my parents' home in Chirk I came across a cup winners medal for 1922-23.
The front has the Welsh Dragon with the usual motto and around the top of the rim is
inscribed 53rd (The Welsh) Division and at the bottom ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.
The back of the medal has ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL at the top of the rim and the centre is inscribed   1922-23 Winners.
Sadly the name of the owner was never inscribed. I have no idea why this came into my parents' possession and I have tried to find more about the 53rd Welsh but although there is much to read of their service in both World Wars I cannot find any mention of their post WW1 activities.
Can anyone suggest which cup final it was and whom the owner may be? Thankyou
Keith Wynne Jones

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 15:43 BST (UK)  »
Hello Radcliff,

I am Keith Wynne Jones, son of Mona Wynne , grandson of Charles Wynne sadly killed 1906. He was the brother of Thomas Wynne, the Liverpool PC. Greatgrandfather was John Wynne.
I've traced my Wynne family back to William Wynne ca 1800 but there are numerous gaps which you and the other contributors are doing much to help me fill.

Re Alfred Wynne, I strongly believe he died aged 18 between July and September 1907.
I also think there may have been three other brothers who died early, John in 1891, Robert in 1900 and Edward in 1904.

You do have the correct Hannah, she was my mother's cousin, lived in Chirk and was widowed when James was killed in a colliery accident.I knew her well and her two sons Bernard and Raymond.  She later remarried Joel Mates
Once again thank you for your interest
Kind regards
Keith

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 10:33 BST (UK)  »
Dear Radcliff, wozzle and garstonite,

May I say how much I appreciate all the time and effort you have spent providing me with much more help and information than I ever imagined possible.
Thank you all so very much.
keithwynne

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 21:44 BST (UK)  »
Dear Radcliff,
I can't thank you enough for all you input. Together with the other contributors you have provided me with details of my Irish connection (Eileen Brennan in Avoca) and the USA where my g.aunt Edith whom I knew went to America as a young woman, was probably instrumental for the Brennans and Bartolomei's
emigrating. I never dreamed I would receive such help. Thankyou once more.
Keithwynne

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Lancashire / Re: Wynnes of West Derby
« on: Saturday 30 June 12 19:16 BST (UK)  »
Radcliff, wozzle and other contributors, I'm not sure if the messages I have posted thanking you all for your help have been posted, if not and this one is "thankyou all very much "
keithwynne

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