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I have got the certs now. Thank you for sending
So, in summary, we have the original signatures for Sophia Anderson and John Watson on their son George's 1877 birth cert. However, Sophia's marriage cert (from SP) is a copy from the original so it does not show her signature, simply states 'signed' (written by the clerk).
I thought look at John Watson's marriage to Ann Andrew that we have been discussing. Drat! That also was a signed copy of the register so no original signature for John Watson showing there. I have also checked the birth cert for first born son to John Watson and Ann Andrew. The birth was registered by father John Watson and he has signed the birth register.
Below are the two signatures. On the left is the signature for the birth of George Watson's birth for father John Watson. On the right is the signature for the birth of William Andrew Watson's birth in 1897 for father John Watson.
Same signature/John Watson?
SureI can help and add the relevant snips here to your thread.
Do you know what children were born to George and wife Jane after their marriage in 1905 up to the 1911 census? Might help with trying to find them in 1911 with additional names.
I can see there was a Jane Rae Watson born in 1904 (before their marriage?). Also a Mary Rae Watson in Dundee in 1911 (do you know if this was before or after the 1911 census?).
Monica
Yes, he married Jane Rae Watson in 1905 in Logie Pert, and they had a child called Mary Rae Watson (born 1911) , John Lawson( Watson, my husbands grandfather, (born 1924, Jessie Watson, Jean Watson, Isabella Watson, George Watson and Elizabeth Watson.
I note on George Watson's birth cert that his father John Watson has signed the birth cert and under his name is Green of Udny. Udny Green is a small village in Aberdeenshire. His occupation is also a farm servant.
There is another John Watson on the 1881 census and his occupation is noted as a butcher.
He married an Isabella Saughter, I think this John Watson signature is very similar to the one on George Watson's birth cert. His wife Isabella dies shortly after being married, and again the signature is similar
If it is his original signature, you could try to cross check with that possible marriage to wife Ann A Watson from 1901 and compare signature? You may be unlucky though and find that the image for this image is actually for a copy of the register page and not the original where the registrar/clerk has rewritten the entry as a copy and therefore the signature won't be the original
Forfarian, you are my go to person for all of thisI am right in saying this?
Monica
Added: Possible marriage - John Watson and Ann Andrew in Savoch in 1896
There is one showing in 1881 at the farm of an Alexander Forrest:
John Watson, 36, farm servant b.Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Address: New Craig, Udny
Hard to say if he is the correct one with out more details (and not sure really where/how you can confirm further).
Have you found George yet in 1911 to confirm his birth place?
I haven't found him yet in 1891 but in 1901 he is showing as a 24yr old ploughman I think. Born in Ellon and at Skilmafelly, Savoch, New Deer.
Monica
WOW!!! this is actually amazing, I have had these certificates and been looking at this on and off for a year now and you guys crack this overnight!!
Thank you guys so much for this,I really do appreciate all your help. Just had a look at the photos on Ancestry, so cool!
Now onto the next mystery.. how do I find out who John Watson was then!?