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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 10:18 BST (UK)  »
marriage in 1746 of Andre Cognacq to Audrey O'Connell aged 24 - born Les Portes-en-Ré,,17286 - mother Jeanne O'Connell - so It looks like O'Connell family were there 1718  - probably earlier ... :)

It's all fascinating stuff, garstonite.  I'm sure we'll be mulling over your discoveries for months to come.  Many thanks.

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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 10:16 BST (UK)  »

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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 10:04 BST (UK)  »
There were also a lot of Irishmen  who followed James II into exile in France.  The parish register of St Germain-en-Laye has a number  of records of the time with some interesting interpretations of Irish surnames by the parish priest!  In case it is of interest to anyone "Jacobite extracts from the parochial registers of St Germain-en-Laye" can be found on the Internet Archive.

Excellent advice jayaygee - I'll certainly follow up on your suggestion.

Incidentally - one of Nicholas Halpin's descendants was a young man by the name of Lieutenant William Halpin-Sweeny, who fought in the Battle of Trafalgar and stood guard over Napoleon as the defeated Emperor was being transported into exile for the last time.  The two men became friendly during the voyage, and in the course of one of many conversations Napoleon became convinced that he had met the Lieutenant before, during the battle of Waterloo.  But it turned out that Napoleon had actually interrogated the Lieutenant's brother, who had been captured during the fighting.  Upon realizing his mistake, Napoleon is reputed to have said: ''Ahh.  Your brother was once my prisoner.  Now I am yours.''

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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 09:49 BST (UK)  »
A great question, garstonite.  All of the Halpin's we're interested in were Protestant, but some of them had confusing sympathies for and attachments to Catholics.  They themselves say they came from county Louth, in the north east corner of Ireland, and many of them used the surnames Halpin and Halfpenny interchangeably, placing them among the large mix of Catholic and Protestant Halpins and Halfpennys found in Louth.  A developing theory of my own is that they were what Irish historians call 'Old English' - that is, they settled in Ireland as colonizers before the English reformation and the conversion of England to Protestantism.  Thereafter, over the course of a few generations and in response to events in Ireland and abroad, more and more of them converted, with the last of the conversions occurring between the Cromwellite wars and the Glorious Revolution of 1688.  If there were any Catholics left in the Halpin family after that point, they probably converted in response to the Penal Laws, introduced to deprive the native Irish of the remainder of their lands and properties.  This seems to me to be the most likely course of events.

Nicholas's line of descendants settled in Portarlington, Queen's County, some time before the 1760s, where they were associated with the education of the Ascendancy's children.  I've been trying to link a certain Christopher Halpin, who was a distiller in Dublin in 1798, to the rest of the Halpin clan, and your discovery of a 'Christophe', son of Nicholas, has given me the best indication yet that I might be on the right track.  Hence my gratitude and excitement.

So your speculations as to the possible participation of the Halpins in the events surrounding the Glorious Revolution in 1688 and the Anglo Dutch War are certainly not wild.  They fit with a trend and a pattern that was repeated in the 18th and 19th centuries.  Many of the Halpins were indeed 'fighting men'.

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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 08:56 BST (UK)  »
Christophe is a terrific find - can't thank you enough for this discovery.  Nicholas is one of the earliest names on our family tree, and your information raises the possibility that the Halpin family's link to France began much earlier than previously thought and may have involved factors other than war and commercial and political adventurism.  Brilliant contribution.  Many thanks.

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Europe / Re: HALPIN in France
« on: Monday 04 September 17 01:02 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the feedback on the French Halpins.  It's greatly appreciated.  The family we're interested in spent most of the 18th and 19th centuries in Ireland and England, with forays into France around the time of the revolution in 1789, with the actor John Edmund Halpin being among a number of English pow's and detainees held at Fontainebleu and Verdun in May of 1803. 

The Robert Halpin you've uncovered was the Rev Robert Crawford Halpin (1815 - 1889), who married Eleanora Wallace in 1847.  Robert's father was William Halpin (1777 - 1862), who fought in the Napoleonic wars on the British side, which explains Robert's birth in France.

Thanks again for the feedback.

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Saturday 15 April 17 09:54 BST (UK)  »

Thanks go to Aideen Derby-Halpin for the photographs.  Aideen is William Robert Halpin's granddaughter, and keeper of the Halpin archive.

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Infant mortality rate was very high back then, and childbirth killed more young women than just about anything else.  Thank you again, Carol.  Much appreciated.

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Friday 14 April 17 23:30 BST (UK)  »
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