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Clackmannanshire / Re: Tullibody Gravestone
« on: Monday 07 December 20 22:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Diddy

I visited Tullibody graveyard at the weekend and checked by the north facing wall of the old kirk.

There were lairs for Brown (none Browne) but few stones around there were legible and none that were mentioned David Brown(e) or Elizabeth Monteath. I guess you are not so much interested in Browns but this is what was there.

In Memoriam
John Brown
His Wife
Margaret Lawson
and their offspring
1769-1934

And a nearby stone

     Sacred
to the memory of
Alexander Brown
died 12th September 1910
aged 60yrs
and his wife
Sarah Barker
died 17th March1897
aged 37yrs

I think there was a George in another corner, difficult to read but I think perhaps Somerset Regiment
was on there.

Sorry not to have better findings

Mary

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Lanarkshire / CONNELL, McKINNON, ANDERSON- Tobermory, Glasgow and Hamilton,
« on: Tuesday 25 February 20 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rootschatters
I may not ever know the answer to this but someone among you may have knowledge/suggestion other than give up.
I have my gg grandmother, Mary Ferguson (MS McKinnon) and two children, with her parents, Donald and Peggy McKINNON, in 1861 census in Tobermory. I haven't been able to find parents for Peggy because she died,in 1878, a widow, in the poorhouse, Tobermory with no information of parents recorded. If i could trace any more of their children it might help.(Apart from Mary m Ferguson and Catherine(Kate) m Connell.
In the 1851c with Donald and Peggy still at Breast, Tobermory is Mary's older sister's husband Joseph CONNEL. He and Catherine McKinnon were married 24.1.1851 in Gorbals Glasgow and I can follow them in addresses in Hamilton in subsequent years. I don't know why Catherine (or Kate as in Tobermory at 1841 census) was not there in 1851, though.
Who does seem to be there is a 1yr old granddaughter called Mary ANDERSON.
In 1861 there is an 11yr granddaughter called Mary Paterson born Gorbals. Right age but is it a misspelling of Anderson a different child.
A Mary Connell, age 20 born Glasgow, appears in the 1871 census with them in Hamilton recorded as daughter. I assume she has been adopted because she is older than their children, William, Robert and Elizabeth.

If it is the same Mary as Mary Anderson/Paterson since the ages are about right, was she a niece that was orphaned in 1851? Who were her parents. I can't work it out after a day at Scotlandspeople.

Any help would be surprising and welcome,
Mary

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Scotland / Re: McDonald or McIlraich Ardchattan
« on: Monday 28 January 19 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
Monica
Thank you so much. That gives me hope and a way of searching for the McDonald family I am really trying to trace in 1841.

Rootschat is the way to go. So many helpful people.

Mary

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Scotland / McDonald or McIlraich Ardchattan
« on: Monday 28 January 19 01:24 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know why two McDonald families in Ardchattan would be transcribed as McIlraich or McIlreach by Scotlandspeople and Freecen. One because of legibility of handwriting I could accept but two families is puzzling me. It was so hard to find them when working back chronologically through Ardchattan census because I was looking for the McDonald name I started with in 1881 census. Eventually I found these:
1841 has Euphane McIlriach age 40 at Kiel Crofts
1851 has Euphemia McIlreach age 52 with same husband Donald and children at Achnacreemore. Whereas 1881,71,61 has her with or without Donald and whichever children are still at home at Achnacreemore as McDONALD

The other family
Ardchattan 1841  Achnacreemore

MCILRIACH Alexander M 60 Farmer Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Chirstian M 55 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Archibald M 25 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH William M 20 Ap Argyllshire
MCILRIACH John M 15 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Leasy F 20 Argyllshire
MCPHAIL Donald M 25 Tailor Argyllshire
MCPHAIL Mary F 25 Argyllshire
MACKENZIE Colin M 9 Ag Labourer Argyllshire
MCGREGOR Isabella F 60 Widow Argyllshire
Piece: SCT1841/504 Place: Ardchattan-Argyllshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Ardchattan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 6 Page: 6
 
1851 at Selma
Alexander McDonald  W 75 crofter of 8ac
Archibald McDonald U 38 ??? Ag Lab
John McDonald U 29 Ag Lab


I can only think that perhaps the wife in both of these families had that maiden name, although why not use the husband's name?
 Perhaps transcription is the only reason.
 However I would be glad of any explanation that might tie these families or otherwise.

Sorry this is so long winded,

Mary


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Tuesday 20 September 16 11:12 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for all the replies.

The most recent ones from Lu have moved me to a final confirmation of who George was. It makes sense that he was the much younger brother of Margaret Adam who was married to Peter Muirhead. He, in his youth, paved the way for the mature couple and their children.


Thank you for the death notices too. I can mark off the branch details but it is not the main line.
I just hoped that delving into it might confirm other things. I was fairly sure who Margaret was but  she and Peter married in 1844, 11years before Statutory Registration in Scotland and her death record from NZ has her mother as a Margaret. However I will pursue the possibility that she may have been the first fife of John shown in 1841 census as 70yrs with a wife Elizabeth only 45yrs.



Thank you too for the geographical information too that they all continued to live near each other. Thank you, Lu, for checking out some of that and I may look into the other trees when I have time but only out of curiosity.

I am very grateful for all the time taken by all of you.
I will now mark this topic completed (from my point of view at least) as I don't plan to follow the line into more recent generations.

Mary

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Monday 19 September 16 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much Beg

That gives me something to work on. I am away from Wifi in a holiday cottage this week unless I get out and about as I am this morning. When I get home at the weekend I can check Scottish births.

I don't know if you would be interested in the outcome. I will let you know and if it turns out to be a dead end and I would be grateful if you would continue a conversation on other possibilities.

Thank you again
Mary

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Sunday 18 September 16 15:00 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Beg
That was a very full explanation and I have hopes of further information from this thread.

So if anyone has information about a George Adam or possibly Adams who would probably be a farmer in Canterbury area. He was the drawer of money to help Peter and Margaret Muirhead from St Ninians, Stirlingshire, Scotland. The family included a son, John, who was a farm servant like his father and three daughter at least one was a domestic servant. 

The wife/mother, Margaret, was an Adam and Peter Muirhead's mother was an Adam. It was a common name in the St Ninians area.
I would love to find out if George Adam in Canturbury had any connection to either family.

Thank you

Mary


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Friday 16 September 16 09:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you also to Ben

Ben,
 I have sent you a personal message.

Mary

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Friday 16 September 16 08:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much Minnie Haha and Lu.
The links are wonderful and I can search by names from my records to get more of what happened next. I do have the deaths so I know the period to search. I could be distracting myself this winter in New Zealand newspapers. The records seem to very extensive and it's great they have been digitised.

It was great to read about the fact that the ship was a spacious one and know that their passage may have been reasonable in the long confinement aboard. Agricultural families at sea; how must that have been for them!

Best wishes from Scotland

Mary

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