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Antrim / Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
« on: Yesterday at 14:20 »
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Yesterday at 14:13 »
Ok well I got the death certs and bingo, he was the 1879 one so now I have his death date.
I think Ann's death certificate suggests she died in chapel as it gives her place of death as Bethsaida. I can look up in the papers now to see if I can learn anymore of their lives.
As for the archives when I go I will ask re the burial register and let you know.
I think Ann's death certificate suggests she died in chapel as it gives her place of death as Bethsaida. I can look up in the papers now to see if I can learn anymore of their lives.
As for the archives when I go I will ask re the burial register and let you know.
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Antrim / Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
« on: Yesterday at 11:50 »
Hi if I wanted find evidence of Robert and Margaret living together then the 1921 census would be my go to but from what I glean online the 1921 was held back until 1926 and records not available to the public until Jan 1927.
Was watching videos of city cemetary last night, quite a place
Was watching videos of city cemetary last night, quite a place
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 16:59 BST (UK) »
Lol yes of course, daughter Ann would only be little.
I forgot that I asked about this family all those years ago...shows how long it's been a problem for me. I have avoided the issue for much of that time mind, it's the familysearch fan chart that has inspired me to fill in gaps - if anyone has yet to try it, go for it you can then print out your tree as a fan chart on just one page of A4 (7 generations).
And no I had not considered that Ann could have been a widow when marrying Wiiliam...looking at freebmd there doesn't appear to be a relevant record for this but I appreciate the thinking outside the box which is kind of what I was hoping for in raising this thread.
I will get those deaths later to see if one is indeed William and at least I'll have his death date.
Are there any other tricks to get back a generation when you cant find a marriage record. Unfortunately there isn't an obvious christening for Ann Griffiths in Tremain or Blaenporth either which adds to the trouble.
I forgot that I asked about this family all those years ago...shows how long it's been a problem for me. I have avoided the issue for much of that time mind, it's the familysearch fan chart that has inspired me to fill in gaps - if anyone has yet to try it, go for it you can then print out your tree as a fan chart on just one page of A4 (7 generations).
And no I had not considered that Ann could have been a widow when marrying Wiiliam...looking at freebmd there doesn't appear to be a relevant record for this but I appreciate the thinking outside the box which is kind of what I was hoping for in raising this thread.
I will get those deaths later to see if one is indeed William and at least I'll have his death date.
Are there any other tricks to get back a generation when you cant find a marriage record. Unfortunately there isn't an obvious christening for Ann Griffiths in Tremain or Blaenporth either which adds to the trouble.
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 00:25 BST (UK) »
To Johnw the death entry gives her death as 27th Oct at Bethsaida in St Dogmaels, a chapel. Age 52. Present at death was an Ann Williams... so daughter Ann might be a William's by 1873, and now I need to try to find out where that chapels cemetary is.
Thanks for the suggestion though. You have made me wonder whether the Archives might have a database of monumental inscriptions that can be searched
Thanks for the suggestion though. You have made me wonder whether the Archives might have a database of monumental inscriptions that can be searched
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Saturday 27 April 24 00:16 BST (UK) »
Hi well I got the digital image just now, and bingo it even says wife of William John, Fisherman.
...and yes thanks for the advice re the digital image £2.50 option, I only learned of it about a year ago...hate to think of how much I've wasted over the years!
...and yes thanks for the advice re the digital image £2.50 option, I only learned of it about a year ago...hate to think of how much I've wasted over the years!
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Antrim / Re: Finding death date, or graves of my GG Grandparents in Malone
« on: Friday 26 April 24 20:51 BST (UK) »
Wow thanks so much guys, that's amazing, never would have thought I'd get so much info.
Very sad though mind, I guess if he was buried with Sarah then they were reunited, albeit in time.
A great start to the weekend.
Very sad though mind, I guess if he was buried with Sarah then they were reunited, albeit in time.
A great start to the weekend.
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Friday 26 April 24 19:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replies and suggestions.
I will buy a scan of that death later on and see.
Also I have just checked the 1881 and yes it could very well be daughter Annie as after all on that census result her husband Evan is a sailor and much of this family including my line lived at Greenfirld Square so this all fits in. I will reply back after I get the pdf.
Many thanks
I will buy a scan of that death later on and see.
Also I have just checked the 1881 and yes it could very well be daughter Annie as after all on that census result her husband Evan is a sailor and much of this family including my line lived at Greenfirld Square so this all fits in. I will reply back after I get the pdf.
Many thanks
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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: Brick Wall due to marriage not with GRO
« on: Friday 26 April 24 09:29 BST (UK) »
Yes and actually on his daughters marriage certificate i believe he is given as a carpenter so must have had to switch professions between 1871 and 1880.
I also cannot trace his wife Ann John in the 1881, or possibly she reverted to Griffiths if they never did marry, but maybe she died by 1881 too. I have checked every grave in the 2 obvious graveyards (St Dogmaels church and Blaenwaun chapel) with no luck so 1871 is the last mention of them.
I also cannot trace his wife Ann John in the 1881, or possibly she reverted to Griffiths if they never did marry, but maybe she died by 1881 too. I have checked every grave in the 2 obvious graveyards (St Dogmaels church and Blaenwaun chapel) with no luck so 1871 is the last mention of them.