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Many thanks Folks, for the suggestions.  You've been busy while I've been snoozing 
Okay...

Pheno - good thought, but still the Matthew & Sarah Thick parents still don't seem to work with he wives and children too many others have for these parents and son Richard.

Have investigated the Richard Haworth & Catherine Robinson (mostly because of mother's name) and still open to that one.  Plus, father was a bookkeeper and my Richard was a Clerk at one point - reaching at straws.

Researching Richard born to John Hall Haworth and Elizabeth... stymied with that one.

Annie65115 - Thanks, but definitely not the the Ann Roper connection.  Yes, buried at Walton on the Hill.

Ciderdrinker..."Can I ask about a baptism to Thomas and Betsey nee Brown 9.2.1810
It 's at St Nicholas. Father a tailor of Gt Cross Hall St ..."- Yes, have been researching this connection too, but not getting far.  Good idea re signatures!

Am researching the Haworth & Betsey Brown possibility, but not having a lot of luck with connections.

MY Richard married Alethea Goodrich Wells (ch 24 Mar 1809 died 28 June 1855, dau of Alethea Hargreaves & John Wells (another brick wall is he lol)
They married on 13 May 1831 at St martin
Chn
Catherine Maria Haworth 1832-1890 (name inspired research re Catherine Robinson connection and any other Catherine)
Harriet Ameila Haworth  1834-1873 (Harriet(s) in Haworth, Wells & Hargreaves  lines)
Richard John Haworth (my 2g-grandfather) bn Cheshire (Abode Poulton Cum Seacombe Cheshire) 18 Jul 1836 - 2 bapt for him ?? 8 Aug 1836 St Peter, Liverpool & 22 Jul 1841 St Peter, Liverpool second one under HOWORTH (parents Richard & Alethea).  Died 21 Jun 1922 Western Australia.
Alethea Goodrich Haworth 1838-1877
Elizabeth Wells Haworth 1841-1908
Bridger Goodrich Haworth 1843-1881
Emma Selina Haworth 1846 - 1899
Susan Louisa Haworth 1848-1895
William James "James" Haworth 1851-1916
Jessie Maud Haworth 1855-1856

I've followed all chn and their chn as much as possible, but nothing leads me back to the parents of Richard...

He seemed to change occupations regularly according to baptisms of children!  Started out as a 'Mariner', Labourer, Warehouseman, Clerk in an Office, Gentleman, Broker, Surveyor (Tuesday 3 April 1860 - 'R Haworth, Esq., formerly of Bradshaw and Haworth surveyors, &c., late of West Derby, England.) and died as a Window Blind Manufacturer.  Fudge.

1861 census has him bn about 1804 (?) but all others and death cert about 1809-1810.  But, will look at the earlier years...in case

So grateful for all the input!

Hi Folks,
Hope I'm posting this in the right section... 
I know you're an intelligent, helpful bunch - good folk have assisted in the past.  My brick wall (one of them!), despite researching on an off for over a decade, is my 4th g-grandfather, Richard Haworth, born 1808-1811, depending on which document is used as reference, died 7 June 1868, buried 10 June 1868 in Lancashire, England.  Death notices appeared in England and Australia, where his son was living (where I live), and I have the death certificate, which says 58 when he died (no parents, naturally!).

There are many others (26 trees on 'that' site, to which I've subscribed, again) who have him born 6 April, parents as Matthew Haworth and Sarah Thick. 

For a while, I went with the masses, but it niggled that neither parents' names follow down through the main branch, or smaller branchlets (I've explored them all as far as I can).  Then, I came across  a transcript of a footnote, attached to the baptism of Richard, son of Matthew and Sarah.  This is where I need help, please.

"Footnote: 'I certify that Richard HOWARTH appeared before me and declared that he was born 6.00am Apr 6 1811 and produced a Family Bible with an ancient entry to that effecr' (sic) dated 3 Aug 1868."

Ignoring the name spelling (interchangeable even within families, depending on who did the recording, am I right in assuming the entry was made on the day of said Richard's visit?  Or am I wrong?

I'll be immensely grateful for others' take on this.

Jen

Hi Monica,

Just goes to show my maths sucks in the early hours...

So what have I got?

Margaret McEwan aged 45 in 1841 census, so b. abt 1794, married to John McEwan age 50 so b. abt 1791 who was a sawer (a worker in a timber pit or saw mill).

Margaret's death cert has her aged 79, in 1871, which would make her born abt 1792 - not far out. 
Widow of John Black, a 'carter' (maybe for the saw mill, or change of job?). 
Mother Marion Anderson
Father William McEwan
Informant for Margaret's death was James MURRAY - son-in-law!

Poss Christening & Birth for Margaret McEwan:
23 Nov 1794   CLACKMANNAN,CLACKMANNAN,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 18 Nov 1794
Father's Name    Michael Ewan
Mother's Name Mary Drummond

Which does NOT tie in with parents on the death cert in 1871...!  SO maybe I have the wrong Marg McEwan married to a John Black.  Though another rellie on their trail has her parents as Marion Anderson and William McEwan.

So far no marriage for them, though there is one: Irvine Marriage - 20 Jan 1818 John Black & Margaret McGavin Doesn't really 'sound' right.

Children of Margaret & John so far found:
Jane/Jean abt 1820 married James Anderson 1838 Alloa, Clackmannanshire

David abt 1822 at Alloa Clackmannanshire (unconfirmed)

John abt 1826 at Alloa Clackmannanshire (unconfirmed)

Margaret abt 1829 at Alloa Clackmannanshire (unconfirmed)

Isabella abt 1831 at Alloa Clackmannanshire (unconfirmed) Married 2 Nov 1850 at Tillicoultry to Alexander Stewart b abt 1830 at Brechin, and their son Alexander b abt 1851 at Tillicoultry

Ann 4 Jul 1832 at Alloa Clackmannanshire (established) married 11 Dec 1847 at Bothkennar, Stirlingshire to William Malcolm b abt 1826 at Larbert, Stirlingshire, who came to Australia.  They had 12 children according to Ann's death cert, though there's only info on 10 of them - Margaret, Ann, Isabella, John, Ellen/Helen, Alexander, Elizabeth, Charles, Janet, Mearn, William and Ann.

Wondering if perhaps Margaret McEwan jnr married James Murray, if I have the right death.  There were McEwans, Andersons & Blacks in the 1851 Larbet census, and one Murray (not James).  There are also Black+Murray and Malcolm+Murray family connections.

Or did James Anderson die and Jane/Jean remarry to James Murray?  Or was there another daughter, yet to be found?

The hunt continues.

Jenn

Correction

Marion McEwan was 68 at time of death.

Her daughter Margaret was 79 when she died.

sheesh..... need sleep

Jenn

Hi Monica,

You're right, nothing helps, so will contact them.  Thank you for the advice.  Needless to say the Stewarts seem to be in the middle of the page where there are only a few grey spots.  Just as well I have a sense of humour - one needs it on this journey.

Jenn