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United States of America / Re: John Bateman, teacher, in Wilcox co., Alabama 1860 Census
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 21:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the website links. I had seen these before, but did not see an email link on them, however I have found an email address for the Wilcox co. library and hopefully it is still valid.
wilcoxgen "at" frontiernet "dot" net


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United States of America / Re: John Bateman, teacher, in Wilcox co., Alabama 1860 Census
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 02:37 GMT (UK)  »
Philip, Thank you for the suggestion. I will write to the library to see if they might have any information.   I did find a service record for a John Bateman, who joined Captain Jenkins' Company, Mounted Rifles, Alabama Volunteers in Wilcox county, in 1861, aged 36.  Based on the age similarity to the 1860 census, this looks like it could be the same John Bateman as in the 1860 census.  This unit later became D Company, 3rd Regiment, Alabama Cavalry.   I would love to find out what became of him after 1861.

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Ireland / Records of Hearings in Chancery & Incumbered Estates
« on: Friday 23 January 15 04:20 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching my 3x Gr Grandfather, John Bateman, Esq. of Oak Park, Tralee, co. Kerry who was the defendent in several hearings in Chancery (1843-1844) and in the Incumbered Estates Courts (ca. 1850-1863).   Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain copies of the court proceedings/arguments?  I have found various notices in Irish newspapers of the hearings and would like to see the actual proceedings, but am not sure where to look.   Tom

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United States of America / John Bateman, teacher, in Wilcox co., Alabama 1860 Census
« on: Friday 23 January 15 03:01 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for any information about John Bateman who appears in the 1860 Federal census in East Division, Wilcox County, Alabama (Post office: Rehoboth).  He is living in the home of John Celery (Jno. Celery in the census) and he is listed as a teacher, age 35, born in Ireland.   If he was a teacher, would there be any employment records in the state archives related to his employment?   Tom

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Completed Census Requests / Re: COMPLETED - Death at Sea - SS Redbrook 1890
« on: Monday 22 December 14 23:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jason, 
I don't actually have a connection to the Henry Edwards that died on the SS Redbrook.   I was searching for the death of my great grand-uncle, Henry Victor Edwards, who died at about the same time as your great grandfather and the death of "your" Henry was one of the possible deaths that I was investigating as a possible connection.   I knew that "my" Henry had been in South Africa in about 1890 but had died shortly thereafter and I had been unable to find any death record for him.   I have since found his death record in Jamaica where he died in 1893.
I'm sorry, but I have no further information on "your" Henry beyond what I found out through following the leads posted in this forum.   I will keep your search in mind and let you know if I come across anything that might help you.    Tom

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Martha Kingsbury Hemingway, b. abt 1823/24, Dewsbury
« on: Monday 08 December 14 16:38 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for pointing out those records, the George Hemingway burial 1848 at age 56 would fit with "my" George as he was likely born about 1795 +/- 2-3 yrs based on the 1841 census and that he is no where to be seen in the 1851 census.   But at this point the connection is speculative, however that it is in non-conformist records is interesting.....   I will look further! 

I also just realized that the transcribed records for Dewsbury, All Saints on Ancestry do not include 1822 baptisms.   Ancestry has 1813-1821, 1823-1910 while Familysearch appears to have the same range.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Martha Kingsbury Hemingway, b. abt 1823/24, Dewsbury
« on: Monday 08 December 14 04:00 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Pennines on Sunday 07 December 14 19:23 GMT (UK)
Have you tried Non-Conformist records? .....

There are West Yorks Non Conformist records on Ancestry -- as well as general non-conformist records on Family Search. Might be worth a try.

Hi Pennines,
I've searched all the West Yorks records on Ancestry, which includes the non-conformist records that they have indexed.   I don't know how complete their indexing is, so there could be some records that wouldn't show up in a search, but I haven't yet looked at records that are not indexed on Ancestry.  Same applies to FAmilysearch.    As both daughters were married in the establised church, I've been looking in those parish records, but non-conformist records are certainly a possibility and I'll look at them more closely.

Ancestry recently released a new set of records for West Yorkshire, Select Land Tax Records 1704-1932 and I've found several records for George Hemingway in Dewsbury in the period 1796-1832, although it appears that these refer to at least two individuals.  In 1805-1807 one location refers to "late Geo. Hemingway" while the other continues as Geo. Hemingway.   There appeared to be two locations where a George Hemingway was an occupant, one is in premises owned by Richard Crawshay then later John Dickenson, and a second in premises owned by John Wilson & Co. then later Wilson, Greenwood, Auty & Hemingway and then Wilson, Hemingway & Co..  So it confirms that at least one George Hemingway was  in Dewsbury in the period of interest, however I'm puzzled why he doesn't appear in either Baine's Directory or Pigot's Directory?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Martha Kingsbury Hemingway, b. abt 1823/24, Dewsbury
« on: Friday 05 December 14 03:05 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to Milliepede and fastfusion for your suggestions and help!   I have looked through the parish registers on Ancestry for Dewsbury, All Saints; Batley, All Saints; and Birstall, St. Peter for the period 1821-1828 with no success.   Several other Hemingway baptisms but no children of George Hemingway.   I have to admit that I don't know all the other churches in the Dewsbury area, so if there are some obvious ones I've missed, please let me know.   That said, Ancestry has already indexed most of them but nothing shows up on a search either, so I'm looking more for parish registers that they haven't yet been indexed.   The birth dates from the census records are somewhat in conflict with the marriage records, as both girls were supposedly of "Full Age" at their weddings, Martha in 1842 (so birth year should be 1821 or earlier) and Lydia in 1847 (so birth year should be 1826 or earlier).   Yet the later census records (1851-1881) consistently give birth years of 1823-24 for Martha and 1828-29 for Lydia.   Both marriage records and census returns are often unreliable sources for exact birth year, but I've been looking 1820-1824 for Martha and 1825-1829 for Lydia.

Thank you for the link to the Genuki website, I had not searched that site for this quest!   There is no entry for a George Hemingway in Pigots directory (1829) or Baines Gazeteer (1822) for Dewsbury, so either he had left Dewsbury by 1822 or he was just in a different community.

Tom

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Martha Kingsbury Hemingway, b. abt 1823/24, Dewsbury
« on: Thursday 04 December 14 00:40 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for information on birth/baptism of Martha Kingsbury Hemingway, likely the daughter of George Hemingway and Mary Ann Parr.   MKH was born about 1823-1824 in Dewsbury according to later census data but I cannot find her baptism on Ancestry, Familysearch or FreeREG.   Martha Kingsbury Hemingway married John Porritt on 25 Dec 1842 at Tong, St. James, with father's name George on the parish marriage record.   Parents probably George Hemingway and Mary Ann Parr, who were married 26 Apr 1818 in Dewsbury, All Saints. Mary Ann Parr was daughter of William Parr and Martha Kingsbury, baptised 26 Jun 1795 in Dewsbury, All Saints.   Birthdate and parents of George Hemingway are unknown although 1841 census gives his age as 45 so likely born about 1795 +/- 2 yrs.   George Hemingway and Mary Ann Parr may have had a second daughter, Lydia Ann Hemingway, who married James Hey on 2 Jan 1847 at Dewsbury with father's name George Hemingway on parish marriage record.  According to census records, Lydia Ann was born about 1828 in Dewsbury, however I also cannot find her baptism record.  Any help much appreciated!  Tom

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