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Hello. Has anyone here had trouble receiving access to service records held by the National Archives? Over the past few years, I have requested and been sent copies of both my paternal (Army) and maternal (RAF) grandfathers' Second World War service records, the former coming from the Army Personnel Centre in Glasgow.

Just before Christmas, I again contacted the Army Personnel Centre to request the service record of my great-uncle, and supplied the necessary cheque, next-of-kin consent etc. They emailed to tell me that his record had been transferred to the National Archives as part of the Defence Records Management Project and that I should contact the National Archives if I still wished to apply for a copy. I did so, and yesterday received an email from them saying that "We are unable to open this record because all of the information is exempt under Section 41 of the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act 2000 until 2037. This means that we cannot make the record open to you or to the public in general."

Their email went on: "The FOI Act gives you the right to know whether we hold the information you want and to have it communicated to you, subject to any exemptions which may apply.
Section 41 (1) of the Act exempts information if (a) it was obtained by the public authority from any other person (including another public authority), and (b) the disclosure of the information to the public (otherwise than under the Act) by the public authority holding it would constitute a breach of confidence actionable by that or any other person. 
The information contained in the record relates to information that was given in confidence, the release of which could be actionable in court. Although, for the purposes of the FOI Act, Section 41 is an absolute exemption, I can confirm that we have taken into account the public interest defence test inherent within the common law duty of confidence in reaching this decision.
In this case, Section 41(1) applies to medical information documented in the record.
Please be aware that requests made under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 have to be treated as applicant blind. Therefore, being next-of-kin can have no bearing on the outcome of this request for information. Information released under FOI is released to the public at large, not just to a requester. This is why we have to review these records for sensitivities."

Can anyone out there with more experience than I help me to understand why the National Archives is refusing me access when the guys at the MoD Archives have already granted me access to two very similar documents (both my grandfathers')?

When the Army Records Centre sent through my grandfather's service record, they redacted a section about his medical history. That was fine - whilst it would have made for interesting reading and answered a few family questions, I had no issue with that. If the presence of medical information in my great-uncle's record is TNA's reason for refusing my request, then could they not just redact or omit that section, as the Army Records Centre had done? Their email did, after all, say "In this case, Section 41(1) applies to medical information documented in the record". But then, earlier in their email, they said "all of the information is exempt under Section 41 of the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act".

So, I'm disappointed, annoyed and confused. I sense a gargantuan, frustrating, spirit-crushing battle of wills coming with the faceless administrators of TNS that I stand no chance of winning.

Can anyone help me to understand, and to work out whether there is any way I'll be able to obtain from the National Archives such similar material as has already been supplied to me by the Army Personnel Centre?

Thanks so much in advance,
Steve

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London and Middlesex / Location of Brentford Register Office?
« on: Sunday 09 October 22 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello everyone,

Would anyone out there happen to know where the old Brentford Register Office was located, and whether the building is standing still? My great-uncle married there in 1936 and I would love to know where it stood. I discovered this picture on Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/photos/finlandia_175/2235494528/ - but the stone surround of the main doorway does not look like the brick wall evident by the doorway where their wedding photograph was taken. Any ideas welcome!

Thank you so much in advance.

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The Common Room / What was school like in the 1920s?
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 22:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone. I'm trying to write an account of my grandfather's life, but with almost no primary material available from him (he passed away many years ago) I am trying to reconstruct what it would probably have been like. As part of that, I'm trying - without much success - to find an account of what his school years would have been like. He attended school in the Rhondda valley, in Wales, between about 1922 and 1931. To be honest, though, any account of school life from that period - however generic - would enable me to at least give some impression of what he might have experienced, what he would have studied, and so on.

Does anyone happen to know of any good sources of information about 1920s/30s school life (preferably online)?

Many thanks in advance,
Steve

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Hi everyone. I'm wondering what people here might make of the idea of embracing cloud computing for my genealogy, and of the potential risks of doing so?

My situation is this: I have a young family and a full-time job, so my time to work on researching and writing up my family history is very limited - largely to occasional evenings and even more occasional lunch hours, in fact. I keep my digital files on my home laptop, but would love to be able to access them remotely - for when I get a chance to work on them from my desk at work, or on business trip journeys, for example.

I have also come to appreciate the "backup" advantage having my files stored in the cloud would give me, as opposed to using external hard drives and the like.

But... (and it's a big but)... I worry about security and privacy. By their very nature, a lot of family history documents are very personal - and not just to me, but to my relatives. Putting my own birth certificate into Google Docs, Dropbox, OneDrive or the like would be one thing; putting my relatives' documents there too would be another. Quite aside from making such documents available to snooping organizations like Google, it would surely leave me and others open to the possibility of identity theft, too.

There are, I know, far more secure online backup services than the likes of Google Docs, Dropbox and Microsoft OneDrive - things like Backblaze, SpiderOak and Carbonite -  but if you use them then you generally have to sacrifice some of the syncing/collaboration/productivity tools which are the very appeal of Google, Dropbox and Microsoft.

So, I'm left wondering if this might just be a pipe dream, that genealogy and cloud computing really aren't all that compatible.

Is there anyone who could convince me otherwise? I'm sure that it would be feasible to just keep your current working documents within something like Google Docs and to keep more sensitive personal files backed up to a properly secure, encrypted online backup service, but I don't really want to scatter my files around different online locations. I want to have everything in one place. What I would really like is to find somewhere that I could both securely store my genealogy files AND work on them from different locations.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions, and I really look forward to hearing what people think/what others might do with their own digital files.

Cheers!

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Glamorganshire / Pontypridd & Ynysybwl electoral registers
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 21:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello! Would anyone happen to know whether historic electoral registers for Pontypridd and Ynysybwl are available anywhere online - and, if so, where?
Many thanks in advance for your help,
Steve

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Hi there. Just wondered if anyone might be able to recommend a (preferably free!) tool or app that I could use to draw up a family tree diagram? My genealogy software can produce plenty of variations of these, but I'd like to output one as a jpeg and to have include some nice background artwork behind the 'boxes' of the tree, if you see what I mean, which my programme can't do. If anyone would be able to recommend something, I'd be most grateful. Thanks very much.

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The Common Room / Great personal genealogy websites?
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone. I've started thinking about whether or not to start building my own family history website. I've never been a fan of the idea, for privacy reasons really, but my project to write a book is going to take so many years that I've started to come around to the website idea as a way to publish material regularly, that my family can see, without making them wait years to see it! I'd want to produce something good, but I'm starting from scratch. Would anyone have any suggestions as to particularly good/impressive personal sites that others have created, to give me some inspiration and some insight as to what is possible?
Many thanks indeed,
Steve

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Hi everyone. These are the other photos of my post (I've just figured out how to reduce their file size!). Thanks again, so much, in advance for any help you can give.

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Hi everyone. It's a long time since I last posted, but is there any chance someone might be able to help me to date these photographs (the second one is in my next post)? I'd really like to be as accurate as possible with them, but I really struggle with early photographs. Thanks so much in advance for any help you can give.

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