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London and Middlesex / London Street directories 1960s
« on: Monday 27 November 17 21:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Does anyone here have access to 1960s London Street directories, or are they available digitally, or from ancestry or anything?

Cheers!

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Liverpool Central Library Search Room Request...
« on: Friday 23 June 17 15:34 BST (UK)  »
...Hi!

  Is anyone going to be using the Search Room at any point in the next few weeks/months? There are three documents held there that I'd really like to get a photo/scan/photocopy of. Please let me know and I'll pass on the details!

  Huge thanks in advance,

    Stephen

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Ireland / Irish Research
« on: Thursday 11 May 17 23:00 BST (UK)  »
Just wondering if I could cheekily request a single xxxx lookup from someone? For whatever reason, the https://www.irishgenealogy.ie site doesn't have the facsimile 1878 death cert that I'm looking for...

Any help enormously appreciated!

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Can anyone bring it up to scratch...? Feel free to colour it if you fancy!


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Galway / Portumna residents
« on: Thursday 06 April 17 23:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

  Just wondering if anyone has any pointers on where to take this next? What records have I failed to examine, etc? This is a piece on my Great Great Great Grandparents Pat Nevin and Honor Hogan.

Our first glimpse of our Galway Nevin ancestors comes in an 1834 Tithe Return showing one William “Navin” as farming 94 acres of land at the townland of Derryoober East in the Civil Parish of Ballynakill, County Galway. This was land worth £7 1s and comprised around 3% of the total land of both Derryoober East and West. Among his neighbours were Pat Ford Senior and Pat Ford Junior. Another Nevin – James – lived at Dooros and farmed 36 acres worth £36 7s 9d.

By the next document – the 1856 Griffiths evaluation, William Navin had presumably died, leaving the land – now worth £8 10s in the hands of, presumably, his son – Patrick Nevin. Patrick was around 28 years old at this time. We also see mention of a house on the land at this point too - of approximate value £2 5s. Pat Ford – presumably Junior! – remains a neighbour. All 477 acres of Derryoober East was owned by the Marquis of Clanricade at this point.

The next year, 1857, Pat Nevin had a child, Michael, with Maria Forde. Godparents were Maria’s family – Owen and Maria. We do not know if they were married. There is a sizable gap in Woodford marriage records between 1843 and 1851, but this doesn’t necessarily explain the lack of marriage record here.

In the couple of years following the birth, Maria disappears – presumably dies - and young Michael gains a step-mother in the form of Honora Hagan, who was born around 1829. Again, no marriage record survives. The only other ‘gap’ in records is from 1869-1871. Either way, the first surviving baptismal record of Pat and Honora’s children is that of Francis Nevin at Woodford in July 1859. Patrick Nevin and Honora Hogan are listed as his parents, and Ferdinand Nevin (a very unusual name!) and Bridget Hogan his godparents. His sister Maria Nevin follows in July 1861, with godparents Michael Kilroe and Bridget Roughan. Following this, there is a break in the extant Woodford baptisms until 1865 (and again in 1868-1869).

However, after this time their resumption, the Nevin baptisms stop being recorded in Woodford Parish or, indeed, anywhere at all! I have examined transcripts of Woodford baptismal registers of the 1860s but find no Nevins! That said, they continue to be noted in civil registration, which picks up the rest of the family’s births with Pat Nevin on 7th April 1864, who was born at Douras to Pat (listed as a labourer, who registered the birth two days later) and Honor. There could well be another child between the parish registers concluding in 1861 and civil registration picking up Pat in 1864 (it was only introduced that year). Anyway, next followed Julia on 17th November 1869 (again with Pat – still a labourer – registering, six days later), Martin in October 1871, Ferdy (not the longer ‘Ferdinand’) in May 1873, Ellen in May 1875 and finally Letitia in August 1877. Father Pat Nevin registers all births apart from the last two – the last is registered by Honor herself - and is listed as a labourer in each one, too (except for in 1871 when he is a ‘herd’). He also always records himself as ‘Pat’ rather than Patrick.

Pat will have died at some between between Letitia’s 1877 birth and her 1893 marriage, by which point he is listed as being deceased. The most likely records for Pat’s death are in January 1885 for a 70 year old married Patrick Nevin, labourer of Tynagh, Portumna. The coroner registered his death. The other possibility is the 50 year old married Patrick Nevin who died at Portumna Workhouse in January 1878. I think it unlikely that between 1877 and 1885, Pat would have ended up living 20km away from Dooros in Tynagh, and think it far more likely that he ended up in the local workhouse, especially as several of his children settle either in Portumna, or just across the border in Terryglass.

Honor Nevin appears to have outlived Pat by thirty years, dying on 16th November 1909 in Portumna Workhouse. She had been suffering from “chronic bronchitis” for two years. She was listed as the 80 year old widow of a labourer. Martin Donohue, the “occupier” of the workhouse was the informant, although he didn’t register the death for 43 days – on 29th December. Honor is likely to have been in Portumna workhouse in the 1901 census, but I have been unable to locate her there (as workhouse residents were identified solely by initials).

Any pointers as to where to go to examine Pat and Honor more thoroughly would be hugely welcome!

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Europe / A German Merchant Naval Captain...in Venezuela
« on: Thursday 06 April 17 22:22 BST (UK)  »
Hoping someone can help.

I'm currently researching an old '60s art school band that had a drummer by the name of Hoffman. I'm trying to find out about his Dad. All the former members have been able to tell me are that he was "a German merchant naval captain who sat out WW2 in Venezuela with a furniture store business. Something about his Dad’s past happened and [the drummer] had to get back pronto."

The story intrigues me, if I'm honest. Is there a way of finding a list of German Merchant Navy Captains? Would this tale be referenced anywhere...?

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The Common Room / Am I of (proveable) royal descent?
« on: Friday 09 December 16 11:07 GMT (UK)  »
I post this for your delectation and hope that someone will try and challenge it (and that I can successfully defend it!). I know I would if I saw someone saying it, but anyway - here are my three direct lines of descent from Henry II, King John, and King John again. Let me know if I need to rethink, or if you spot a massive flaw that needs sorting!

I just think this needs putting to the test of some rigour. So here goes - challenge it all you like!

My Great Grandma was Emma Moore, born Waterloo, Liverpool in 1874. Died Seaforth 1955.
Her mother was a Harriet Amelia Cooper, born 1844 in Lane End, Stafford. Died Waterloo(?) 1923.
Her mother was a Frances Robinson from Essex, born there 1810.
Her mother was a Mary Ann Tabrum, born at Aveley, Essex 1783.
Her father was Arthur Tabrum, born 1758 at Bocking.
His mother was Mary Walford, born at Bocking in 1723.
Her father was William Walford, born at Bocking in 1700.
His mother, Jane Disbrowe, was born around 1675.
Her father was Valentine Disbrowe, born at Huntingdon around 1643.
His mother was Jane Cromwell (sister to Oliver), born at Huntingdom 1606.
Her mother was Elizabeth Steward, who lived between around 1564 and 1654.
Her father appears to be Sir William Steward, who died in 1594.
His father appears to be Nicholas Steward, who lived at Ely, having received a lease of the rectory there in 1548 from his brother, the Dean.
His mother was Cecilia Baskerville, born around 1470 of Eardisley, Hereford.
Her father was John Baskerville, c 1438 Eardisley.

Now my line splits into three.

Line One:
John's father was Sir John Baskerville, a knight born in February 1408 at Eardisley. He died December 1455.
His father was another John Baskerville (1387-1415) of Hereford.
His mother was Joan Everingham of Laxton, Nottingham.
Her father was William de Everingham, born around 1333 at Laxton, died around August 1370.
His mother was Joan Deiville of Egmanton, Nottingham (1315-1377).
Her father was John Deiville (1276-1325/6) of Egmanton
His mother was Maud Audley (c1260 of Audley, Stafford)
Her mother was Ella Longespee (1228-1299) of Audley
Her father was Sir William Longespee (1212-1250).
His father was William Longespee, 3rd Earl of Salisbury (1176-1226)
He was an illegitimate son of Henry II.

Line Two:
Sir John Baskerville's mother was Jane Brugge (1389) of Bridge Sollers, Hereford.
Her father was Sir John Brugge, a knight of Staunton Upon Wye (1368-1436)
His mother was Isabel de Grandison (1340 of Ashperton, Hereford)
Her mother was Blanche de Mortimer, Viscountess of Grandison (1310-1347) of Wigmore.
Her father was Roger Mortimer, Earl of March, born at Netherwood, Thornbury (1287-1330)
His father was Edmund Mortimer, a Baron. Born and died at Wigmore and lived 1252-1303.
His father was Roger Mortimer, another Baron. Born at Radnor, Wales in 1231.
His mother was Gwladys, daughter of Llewllyn of Wales (1205-1251).
Her mother was Joan Plantagenet.
And her father was King John.

Line Three:

Sir John Baskerville's wife was ELizabeth Touchet (1404 Heleigh, Stafford)
Her father was John Tuchet, 4th Baron of Audley
His father was Sir John Tuchet
His mother was Joan Audley (1331-1393)
His mother was Joan Mortimer (b. 1312)
And then the line rejoins the previous one, with the father being Roger Mortimer (1287-1330).

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Scotland / The Scottish Years of James and Mary Maguire (c1830s/40s - c1865)
« on: Monday 28 November 16 12:35 GMT (UK)  »
James and Mary Maguire lived in Liverpool from the mid 1860s onwards and are found there in the 1871 census onwards.

However, their time before then was spent in Scotland. Their first son, James, appears to have been born there in 1860, and a daughter, Rosaria (?) in 1862 (according to the 1871 census).

James and Mary are both listed in the 1871 census as being from Ireland. His occupation was that of labourer in that census, dock labourer in 1881, and a warehouseman on ship's cargoes in 1891.

James was 40, 48 and 58 in those three census. Mary was 36, 47 and 55.

Any help in unravelling the time they spent in Scotland - and maybe locating Irish origins would be hugely appreciated.

Thank you!

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United States of America / Mary Nevin migration record
« on: Wednesday 16 November 16 10:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

  I'm looking for the migration record of my Great Great Aunt, Mary Nevin. She travelled from Tipperary in Ireland somewhere between 1901 and 1917 (more likely 1901 and 1911).

She appears on the 1901 Irish census, but can't be found again until she's in Manhattan in 1917, when she is married.

There's been a lot of research done on her already (see here for details - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731832.0)

But her actual migration record - when she went over, which boat she sailed on, who she travelled with, etc. is still not known.

The Mary Nevin travelling with William McGuinness to visit Mrs. Dermoda is not the Mary I'm looking for. That Mary married William McGuinness, but mine married John Fitzgerald.

Huge thanks in advance if anyone can turn anything up!

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