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Lancashire / WILLIAMS Edna Salford /Manchester -Birth/Death/Parents/Census
« on: Tuesday 07 July 20 12:07 BST (UK)  »
I've spent about a year researching my husband David's family tree and am having great difficulty with his paternal side. David's father, Terence Arthur Williams (b. 05/09/1939, d. June 2002) was fostered at about age seven. We know that Terry's mother was Edna Williams, born abt. 1915 - death date unknown. There was no father's name on his birth certificate but could possibly have been called Arthur Ryan.
David has done a DNA test with, uploaded his DNA results to GEDmatch and separated his mother's line from the matches. So far nothing close has shown up, 198cM being the top match, but there are many more  matches mostly from the Isle of Man which are possibly Terry's paternal side. His top 3 matches with Ancestry have not responded to messages sent and do not have  family trees to search.
We only have the following spoken word knowledge about Edna Williams and some handwritten notes from Terry himself concerning Edna's whereabouts in the 1940s and 50's:
- Edna was thought to have worked and/or boarded at Westminster House in Ellesmere Park, Manchester. (approx August 1941).
- Edna spotted socialising regularly in the White Horse pub, Eccles, Manchester.
- Edna worked at Henry Lord's (Veterinary Surgeon) at 46 Gilda Brook Road, Eccles, Manchester.
- Edna lived in a flat above Barry's Barbers on Gilda Brook Road, Eccles, Manchester.
- Terry remembered his mother Edna taking him on the train from Manchester to Liverpool and visiting a sweet shop owned by members of her family possibly her parents. He ate so many sweets that he was sick on the train journey home! (1939 Reg. has Hugh Edmund Williams, sweet shop proprietor of Crosby, Liverpool and family, including an Edna Williams b1916 but this does not appear to be our Edna unfortunately).
- Edna worked (managed?) at the RAF Association Club branch in Eccles, Manchester.
- Edna worked at the Broadway Cinema Cafe in Eccles, Manchester, together with Mrs Edith Lowry, (deceased).
- Approx. 1951/52 Edna worked at Greengate & Irwell and/or the Dunlop Rubber Company, Manchester.
- From Terry's notes, another possible male associate of Edna's was Mr Arthur Heald Green b1913 of 13, Knowsley Ave, Eccles.
Terry was fostered age about 7, to Mrs Edith Lowry (deceased) and husband at 37 Lightoaks Road, Salford, Manchester. Edna stopped visiting him soon after this (1946 -47).
Terry was born at Crumpsall Hospital, Manchester and his birth certificate has Edna residing then at 9 Piercy Street, Failsworth, Manchester. In the 1939 Register, Hugh T and Lydia Williams are listed at this address, but not Edna even though the Register was taken only 3 weeks after Terry's birth. I have not yet been able to locate Edna in the 1939 Register nor have I been able to determine Edna's relationship to this couple.
Terry tried to track down his mother in the 1970s. He found evidence through social services in Manchester that he may have half-siblings, sharing Edna with him as their mother. He lost interest after learning that.  Edna may have lived in Salvation Army hostels in Salford/Manchester.
In spite of having so many clues I have been unable to find a birth, death, census information, parents etc., I would be grateful for some help and some fresh sets of eyes to evaluate this information.

Lancashire / Williams Hugh Edmund Birth/Baptism/Marriage details
« on: Thursday 21 May 20 00:51 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find a birth/baptism for Hugh Edmund Williams born 3 Jun 1890 and/or a transcription of his marriage so I can determine who his parents were.
He married Lily Jowett at West Derby Lancs in Apr/May/Jun qtr 1915. 
1939  England Census -  living at 'Lynhurst' 7 Sunningdale Dr,  Gt Crosby Liverpool. Occupation: Wholesale Retail Confectioner Sugar. born 3 Jun 1890. with Lily b.2 Jun 1891 and children Edna b. 4 Apr 1916 Shop Manageress and Herbert Arthur b. 3 Apr 1923 Office boy Accountants.
Hugh died 19 Dec 1953 at Crosby. Cremated 23 Dec 1953. Address on Cemetery Register same as in 1939 - Sweet and tobacconist  age 63. Probate Date13/04/1954 entry confirmed all details above.
Lily's parents were Walter Jowett Storekeeper and Mary Ellen (from her Baptism 30 Sept 1891 at St.Judes' Hunslet, Leeds).

Thank you Margaret

Montgomeryshire / Help with solving a family mystery in Llanfyllin
« on: Thursday 17 October 19 07:24 BST (UK)  »
Would anyone know where I could find the names of Inn Keepers/Hotel Proprietors plus names of the Hotels/Inns which they owned in the 1940's in Llanfyllin Mongomeryshire Wales?

My mother-in-law, Marian, who has recently turned 80 remembers a delightful family holiday in Llanfyllin about 1948 where she, along with her parents and sister, visited her Uncle Edward and Aunty Mary Horrocks who were Inn Keepers at the Cambrian Inn. During the same trip they also went to stay with another Aunty and Uncle who were also Inn Keppers/Hotel Proprietors at the other end of the village.

Unfortunately, she can't remember their names nor the name of their Inn/Hotel. It could have been The Red Lion, White Lion or even The Goat. What is very clear though is that her Uncle was a 'terrific artist and one of his paintings which was hung in their loungeroom at the back of the pub was  of a large battle scene with a lot of horses and red uniforms and he was colour blind!'

Possible family names are HORROCKS, WALLWORK. TONGE and WILLIAMS to name a few. I would be grateful for any information at all which may be useful in our search.

Thankyou Margaret

Australia Lookups completed / 1918 Birth NSW GIDDEY*COMPLETED* with thanks
« on: Sunday 22 May 11 03:05 BST (UK)  »

I hope someone can help me. I'm trying to establish whether Reginald Samuel GIDDEY is part of my family. I have his date and place of his birth from his WWII RAAF Service Record online. Unfortunately it only has his father's name recorded for next of kin. I have a Frederick Giddey, married to Maggie Bella Irving in Stroud NSW in 1915. Maggie died in 1976 in Gloucester NSW. I'm hoping that my Frederick and Maggie are Reginald's parents.

GIDDEY Reginald Samuel

DOB: 25 April, 1918 in Gloucester NSW and died 2004.

Father: Frederick GIDDEY

I need to try to find out Reginald's mother's name if possible.

Thank you

Margaret  :)

Cornwall Lookup Requests / Help with Birth/Bap.GIDDEY/GEDYE/GIDDY please
« on: Sunday 31 October 10 06:00 GMT (UK)  »
I’m having difficulty finding a birth or baptism for my great grandfather, Thomas (Tom) Giddey/Gedye/Giddy. I have estimated that he was born between 1856-1858 in St. Neot Cornwall, according to census/death certificate and ship’s passenger information.  His parents were William Giddey/Gedye/Giddy and Jane Caddy.  I have been unable to find a birth/bap. for his sister Millicent either, who was born c1860. Their brother, William, was born in Sept quarter, 1855 at St Neot Cornwall and baptized 20 Jan 1857 at Warleggan Cornwall England.

Tom Giddey died 28 Jan, 1915 in Newcastle NSW Australia aged 58 years.

1861 England Census Piece: RG9/1530 Place: Liskeard -Cornwall
Civil Parish: St Neot
Address: Kellows
GEDYE   William   Head M 38   Cattle Dealer St Neot       
GEDYE   Jane   Wife   M 37 Breage
GEDYE   William   So   5   Scholar St Neot       
GEDYE   Thomas   Son 3   Scholar St Neot       
GEDYE   Milicent   Dau 1 St Neot

Between 1861-1871, their father, William came to Australia, without his family. I have yet to find the date or the ship he travelled on.

In 1871 Thomas was employed as a servant in the Biddle household in Warleggan and sister Millicent was staying with her Aunt Mary Weary (nee Giddey) and family at Bodmin.

1871 England Census
Piece: RG10/2248 Place: St Mabyn Cornwall
Address: Trevorder
BIDDLE   William   Head   M   48   Farmer 214acres Cardinham       
BIDDLE   Emma   Wife   M 44  Blisland       
BIDDLE   Sarah J   Dau   S 18 Bodmin       
BIDDLE   John   Son  14 Warleggan       
BIDDLE   Emma A   Dau  11   Scholar  Warleggan       
BIDDLE   Mary   Dau   9   Scholar Warleggan       
BIDDLE   George   Son   5   Scholar Warleggan       
GIDDY   Thomas   Servant    13   Servant Indoors St Neot

1871 England Census
Piece: RG10/2250 Place: Bodmin Cornwall
Address: 3 St Leonards
WEARY   Christopher A   Head M 30 Attendant Lunatic Asylum   Blisland       
WEARY   Mary Wife   M 30 Warleggan       
 WEARY   Betsy A   Dau   6   Scholar Warleggan       
 WEARY   Maud M   Dau   2 Bodmin       
 WEARY   John   Son   -   M   6m       Cornwall - Bodmin       
 GIDDY   Millicent   Niece 11   Scholar St Neot

In Jan, 1875 Jane and the children, Thomas aged 17 and Millicent aged 14 arrived in Victoria Australia, unassisted passage on board the ship “Yorkshire’. They then sailed from Melbourne to Sydney on board the ship 'Alexandria' on 14 January 1875. Their brother William aged 19 also made the journey to Sydney in Dec 1874, aboard the ship ‘Samuel Plimsoll’ with his cousin John Coppin. Unfortunately their Dad, William died in May 1875 in Sydney.

I have gathered so much information regarding Great Granddad Tom, but would love to find a birth/bap for him also.

Thank you,

Margaret :)

I am trying to find Blanch Hollie Roberts and William Skinfell/Skinfill Giddey in 1901 censuses please.

Blanche was baptised 26 Sept 1886 at St Austell Cornwall England, to parents, Joseph Robins Roberts and Emily Caroline Fryer.  She married William Skinfell /Skinfill Giddey/Giddy in 1907 at St Austell District in June qtr 1907.

William was bap. 11 July 1879 in Kenwyn Cornwall to parents, Richard Giddey and Amelia Jane Skinfell/Skinfill.  It would be wonderful if someone could find them.

1891 Census   RG12/1822
Mulvra Farm St Austell, Cornwall
ROBERTS   Joseph R   Head   40 Farmer,  St Austell       
ROBERTS   Emily C   Wife  28  Somerset  Bristol       
ROBERTS   Mabel A H   Dau  12 Scholar  St Austell       
ROBERTS   Ernest   Son   S  11   Scholar  St Austell       
ROBERTS   Adeline M H   Dau  10 Scholar St Austell       
ROBERTS   Blanche H   Dau  5 Scholar St Austell       
ROBERTS   Josephine M   Dau  4  St Austell       
ROBERTS   Joseph E   Son 2  St Austell    (Joseph Eugene)   
ROBERTS   Winifred   Dau 1 St Austell       
LEAN   Sabina   Servant   S  16   Servant Domestic  St Ewe       
GILES   Mary   Servant   S  13   Nursemaid l St Ewe       
LEAN   John   Servant   S  14   Farm Servant   St Ewe

1891 Census  RG12/1830
Treyew Villas Kenwyn Truro Cornwall
GIDDY   Amelia J   Head   W 37 Living On Own Means    Overseas - British - Mexico Brit Subject       
GIDDY   Herbert   Son 14 Scholar  Cornwall - Ruan Lanihorne       
GIDDY   Reginald   Son  13 Scholar Cornwall - Ruan Lanihorne       
GIDDY   William S   Son 11   Scholar Cornwall - Kenwyn       
GIDDY   Ernest C   Son 10   Scholar Cornwall - Kenwyn

Thank you,

Margaret :)

Kilkenny / Which Roman Catholic Parishes please?
« on: Thursday 23 September 10 06:31 BST (UK)  »
I am now ready to research my Irish ancestors and require some help please, to get started.

After searching the  site, I think I've found a marriage entry in 1853 for my 2x great grandparents, Patrick Quinn and Margaret Leonard.

Also, there are a few entries for possible baptism/births for them in 1815 and 1825 respectively, so before I outlay £5, per entry, I was wondering if anyone could tell me which Roman Catholic Parishes, St John and Coan  belong to please? (1815 – 1853).

I have conflicting information regarding the names of Patrick Quinn’s parents also, which makes it difficult to be sure of the correct entry.

I was wondering if anyone knows if the parent’s names of the bride and groom were recorded on the Marriage records pre civil registration?

I have also posted here,479772.0.html

Thank you,

Margaret :)

London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / 1891/1901 Lookup NYE please
« on: Sunday 12 September 10 09:50 BST (UK)  »
I’m trying to find George William Nye (born 1885 at Camberwell London) in 1891 and 1901.
He married Lillian Clarrisa Mason in Sept qtr 1912, in Wandsworth Greater London.

Lillian Clarissa Mason’s parents were John William Mason and Clarissa Matthews.
Lillian was born Oct qtr 1890 in East Dulwich London and died in Jun qtr 1928 in Kensington London, but I don’t know where or when George died.

Unfortunately this is all I know about him.

Thank you

Margaret :)

Sussex Lookup Requests / 1891/1901 Lookup PARKS please
« on: Saturday 11 September 10 08:37 BST (UK)  »

I’m trying to find Lilian Cassie Parks (born June qtr 1887 Eastbourne Sussex and died Dec qtr 1919 in Eastbourne) in 1891 and 1901 please

She married Leonard Stanley Mason in Dec quarter 1913 also in Eastbourne.

Unfortunately this is all I know about her.

Thank you

Margaret :)

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