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London and Middlesex / COMPLETED THANKS
« on: Saturday 01 July 23 14:08 BST (UK)  »
I’ve just received a birth certificate for someone in 1873 but I’m struggling to find the location of the address.
I realise street names changed and places were demolished but if anyone could help I would be very grateful.
I’d like to find it on a map !

It is…….  1,New Street Cottages, New Street, East Street, Lambeth.

How many ‘Streets’ does one person need in an address ?!!!!

Many thanks

Update, New Street was off Princes Street so we’re getting nearer !

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They say, “All the girls love a sailor” but I have a very naughty one in ‘my lot’ !
I need some help though please.

He joined the RMLI in 1853 for a period of 12 years, some of which were here in Falmouth harbour, on a gunship which had been turned into a coastguard vessel.

I paid Nat. Archive’s fee for a download of his RMLI attestation records (sadly no service records though)  but they make fantastic reading !

He had ‘BAD’ conduct which is so much more fun to read about than a guy with good conduct (in my opinion anyway !!)

He was often drunk, using disgusting language, theft, disobeying orders, constantly late back from shore leave and disappearing for several days at at time, one time he was bought back to the ship by Police.
Also, very often absent from the ship and even using insolent and profane language while attending Divine Service, and more !

He had pay and leave deducted, was confined to barracks and also spent time in prison somewhere doing ‘hard labour’.

In 1859 he was ‘deficient of battle medal’ so I wonder what that was for.

Once, while he was ‘missing’ he actually married a local girl who became pregnant. Presumably, when he was late back to the ship, he was with her.

When he’d finished his time here, in 1862, he went off on another ship and abandoned her and the baby. That baby is my line.
After completing his 12 years service he ended up back in his hometown in London, remarried (bygamy?) and had a new family.

This is what I need help with….
He was Court Martialled in 1863 and I have the book and page number of the event but sadly the Nat. Archives have not yet had it digitised for download.

I would have to visit in person for a copy of it but I live hundreds of miles away so it’s not an option.
I wondered if anyone was planning to go there soon and could obtain this for me please, all costs reimbursed of course !

Thankyou in advance, hopefully 🤞

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Cornwall / Lying about being a widow on a marriage certificate?
« on: Friday 09 June 23 11:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,
I’d like to hear your thoughts on this please…..

A lady in Penryn met a man in the Royal Marines who was serving on a ship docked in Falmouth harbour.
They married in 1860 in Penryn.
A few months later he is there on the 1861 census, still aboard the ship.

In 1862 they have a baby.
In 1865 she remarries but uses her maiden name and calls herself a ‘widow’.

But …….
I know for certain she wasn’t a widow because I have his service records and in 1863 he changed ships, so I assume he left Falmouth.

His service conduct was appalling - constantly drunk, using foul language, disobedience of orders, and theft. Also, leaving the ship to go ashore when he shouldn’t have many times, often being brought back by Police !

His term of service ended in 1865 so it seems he decided to leave his young wife and baby to go back to London where he came from.
She wouldn’t have seen a body or had a burial because he was still alive so if he just disappeared could she claim he was dead and legally remarry ?

Presumably back then the vicar didn’t need proof she was a widow. She certainly didn’t have a death certificate!

He is back in London by 1871, remarried with several more children (bigamy ?!).

Thanks,
J.x

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Kent / COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 18 May 23 14:13 BST (UK)  »
My ancestor had a little girl, Ivy Caroline Hedges, who died aged 5 weeks, in October 1907.
She is recorded in the GRO death records.
On the ‘Find a grave’ website she is shown as buried in a shared grave - “Plot 2, grave 7727 SHARED GRAVE”.

I can see on the headstone in the photo of the grave, a lady called Sarah Drury was later buried there, in 1926 - “Plot 2, grave 7727B SHARED GRAVE”.

But as Ivy died in 1907, years before Sarah, she was obviously buried there first.

Sarah Drury is in the Cheriton Road Cemetery burial book in 1926 but there is no mention of little Ivy in 1907.

Any thoughts please ?
Thanks

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Cornwall / Where near Falmouth did Cork Cutters work ?
« on: Tuesday 02 May 23 11:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
My ancestor was a cork cutter as at 1860.
He lived in Falmouth so I’m wondering where his place of work would have been.

I didn’t know we had cork oak trees in Cornwall (!) unless they were imported and arrived at Falmouth Docks.

Any help much appreciated please.
Thanks
J

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Cornwall / Martha Kessell (Kissell) in Penryn
« on: Wednesday 26 April 23 12:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

Martha Kessell’s birth was registered in Falmouth in 1849.
She was born in Penryn and I believe her to be the illegitimate daughter of Ann Kessell.

Mary Ann (b.1843/4) and Jane (b.1840) also seem to be Ann’s illegitimate children as per the 1841 and 1851 census !

Martha Kessell is on the 1851 census, aged 2, with the family living in Helston Road, Penryn.
I can’t find her after that.
No death or marriage entry or in the 1861 census.

Any help much appreciated.
Thanks very much.
J.

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Surrey / Bletchingley railroad tunnel workers huts in 1841
« on: Saturday 11 March 23 20:16 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestor and his family (wife and 4 children), all lived along the railroad line when he worked on the new Bletchingley railway at the time of the 1841 census.

I’m wondering if there any photos of the place, particularly the workers living huts etc. that may have been taken in later years.

I found this information -
“The Bletchingley Tunnel was built in 1841 as part of the original main line between London and Dover. Ventilation shafts can still be seen in the area but most of the huts and buildings used to house the labourers at the time have mainly disappeared under the undergrowth.”

By 1851 they were all back at home in Sussex.

Thanks,
Joobles

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I have an old CDV, probably 1860’s - 1870’s, of ancestors here in Cornwall but on the back it’s printed  R.S.Stacy, Photographic Artist, North Adelaide, Australia.

They had both died by 1878 so I know it was taken prior to that date.
Luckily their names are written on the back.

I’m sure they wouldn’t have travelled that far away so how could that have happened ? Would a photographer have come to the U.K. using his card stock ?

Their daughter actually moved to Adelaide, Australia but died there in 1853 and I assumed her body must have been brought back as she is buried here with her parents. BUT there is a burial record for her in a cemetery in Adelaide, aswell as her baby.
Maybe the parents didn’t bring her back but just included her name on their headstone in memory of her.

Any thoughts about the photo query much appreciated.

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United States of America / HUGE challenge for someone please ! Cornelius Lawry
« on: Sunday 05 June 22 20:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi, this is a HUGE challenge I’m afraid so here goes !
No one else researching this chap seems to know this story about him.

My ancestor, Cornelius Lawry, was born here in Budock, Cornwall in 1840.
He’s on the 1841 and 1851 census here as a child, but must have left to go to America sometime before the 1861 census as he’s not here on it then. Nor is he in the U.K. on the 1871.

He was a saddle maker and went over there to make leather saddles for the Cowboy’s horses.
He made a lot of money and became a gambler which resulted in him being murdered there !
They allegedly couldn’t trace any heirs so used his money to open the Cornelius Lawry Hospital in memory of him.

I would love to know more about this so if anyone can help I would be so very grateful.
I can’t find anything at all about when he travelled there, where he lived over there, when he was murdered and where the hospital was  ::)

Also, he was in the Masons (?) as I have an old photo of him wearing his Lodge apron !

Thankyou in advance.
J.

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