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Surrey / CLARK and HODGES / STROUD
« on: Friday 10 December 10 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everybody and greetings from Australia.

John CLARK b 1777 Scotland (thanks  :o Eyesee) d before 1851
A source names him John Stough CLARK, but the middle name is unlikely because at all the childrens' baptisms no middle name is recorded but wife Louisa's is recorded every time.
1816 res Rotherhithe Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1817 res James's Street, Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1818 res Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1820 res Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1821 res Paradise Place, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1823 res Globe Stairs, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1824 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1828 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1830 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1831 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Master Mariner
1833 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1835 res Russell Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1841 census Mariners Alms Houses, Bow Common, London E3

married 12/10/1815 St Giles’s, Camberwell  (The marriage register shows both otp and John was a widower).

Louisa Lancaster HODGES ch 30/05/1794 St Mary's, Rotherhithe d 1st Qtr 1875 reg Mile End Old Town  [daughter of John HODGES & Sarah STROUD, but married and signed the register as Louisa Lancaster STROUD, which also appears in baptism registers for the children]
1851 census 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1 : occ Annuitant - widow
1861 census 7 Maritime Alms Houses, Bow Common Lane, London E3 : occ Annuitant; 1 servant
1871 census 7 Maritime Alms Houses, Bow Common Lane, London E3 : occ Annuitant [also present:- Emma CLARK boarder age 21 unmarried b Clerkenwell London : occ Machinist].

I believe I have all their children (eleven - thanks Eyesee! ;D)

John CLARK was a common name and I cannot access an LDS Family History Centre to view films of parish registers, so I cannot yet make further progress on him, his first wife, and Louisa Lancaster HODGES' parents.  :'(

These are my wife’s great-great-great grandparents.  Any chance of some help please?

Many thanks for viewing,

Peter.

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London and Middlesex / CLARK and STROUD
« on: Friday 10 December 10 13:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everybody and greetings from Australia.

John CLARK b 1790 Bow, London d before 1851
1790 A source gives name John Stough CLARK, but the middle name is unlikely because at all the childrens' baptisms no middle name is recorded but wife Louisa's is recorded every time.
1816 res Rotherhithe Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1817 res James's Street, Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1818 res Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1820 res Limehouse London E14 : occ Mariner
1823 res Globe Stairs, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1824 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1828 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1830 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1831 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Master Mariner
1833 res Trinity Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1835 res Russell Street, Rotherhithe London SE16 : occ Mariner
1841 census Mariners Alms Houses, Bow Common, London
married 12/10/1815 St Giles’s, Camberwell
Louisa Lancaster STROUD b 1794 Camberwell d 1st Qtr 1875 reg Mile End Old Town
1851 census 7 Maritime Cottages, Stepney London E1 : occ Annuitant - widow [also present:- Thomas A CLARK grandson age 6 b Poplar : occ Scholar].
1861 census 7 Maritime Alms Houses, Bow Common Lane, London E3 : occ Annuitant; 1 servant [also present:- Thomas A CLARK grandson age 16 b Poplar].
1871 census 7 Maritime Alms Houses, Bow Common Lane, London E3 : occ Annuitant [also present : Ernest J A SANDERSON grandson age 19 married b Dalston London : occ Banker's Clerk; Elizabeth L SANDERSON granddaughter (probably granddaughter-in-law) age 22 married b Limerick Ireland : occ Dress maker; Emma CLARK boarder age 21 unmarried b Clerkenwell London : occ Machinist].

I believe I have all their children (ten) – but I cannot yet place the abovenamed grandchildren.

John CLARK was a common name and I cannot access an LDS Family History Centre to view films of parish registers, so I cannot yet make further progress on him and Louisa Lancaster STROUD.  The 1841 census (Bow) says they were born in that county, but the marriage register (St Giles, Camberwell) says they were both otp and John was a widower.

These are my wife’s great-great-great grandparents.  Any chance of some help please?

Many thanks for viewing,

Peter.

P.S. – I’m posting this in the Surrey (Camberwell) and London and Middlesex (Bow) forums.

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Sussex / French, Pile, Croft, Goss etc
« on: Saturday 27 November 10 02:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everybody,

My Family Tree has several FRENCH persons in East Sussex and I am trying to find some more.  So far I have:-

Mary HOAD ch 12/12/1730 Herstmonceux
married (presumably)
Robert FRENCH b 1728
parents of
Joseph FRENCH ch 29/05/1748 Rye d 1823 Rye
married 26/06/1776 Salehurst
Lydia GOSS b 1753 d 26/09/1846 Salehurst
Children:-
1. William FRENCH ch 15/01/1777 Rye
2. Robert FRENCH b 1778 Salehurst ch 01/11/1778 Rye d 11/10/1845 Bexhill
married 05/12/1796 Bodiam
Catherine CROFT b 16/04/1778 Salehurst ch 06/01/1779 Burwash d 11/04/1807 Burwash
Children :-
    i.  Edward FRENCH ch 30/06/1803 Salehurst
    ii. Robert FRENCH b 12/05/1805 Salehurst
    married c. 1834
    Elizabeth PILE b 05/12/1808 d 23/09/1865 Camperdown NSW
    Robert & Elizabeth arrived Australia 1841
3. Elizabeth FRENCH ch 28/01/1781 Rye
4. Juliet FRENCH ch 08/04/1787 Salehurst

It didn’t seem too difficult since there were so many FRENCH in Sussex, but so far I can’t make any more connections.  I tried the excellent www.sussex-opc.org/ website, which gave nothing new, and in my part of Australia it is not practical to visit an LDS Family History Centre to view parish register films.

So I was wondering if anybody might share any FRENCH info related to those above please?

Best wishes to all,

Peter.

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Australia / What ship and date for coming over?
« on: Saturday 13 November 10 01:48 GMT (UK)  »
I cannot yet determine the ship and date for these two coming over to Australia:-

John Chaloner ANDREW married Eliza Maria GILL 2nd Qtr 1863 Sheffield and their first son Francis James ANDREW's birth was registered 1864 in Queensland.

Best wishes to all, and any assistance would be very much appreciated.

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Australia / Images of Sydney Buildings.
« on: Saturday 13 November 10 01:26 GMT (UK)  »
Could anyone please help me find images of these 2 buildings?  I assumed they are available because they were owned by prominent, wealthy men in Sydney, but I have tried all the obvious avenues and I have run out of ideas.

1.  Napoleon Cottage, Brisbane Street, Surry Hills.
Gregory BOARD 1809 - 1888 lived there for many years and died there - probate £208,292 which in those days was quite a fortune.

2.  Glenbank, Norton Street, Ashfield
Gregory's son Gregory BOARD 1841 - 1915 lived there for many years, and, according to his obituary in The Sydney Morning Herald, "deceased was the possessor of one of the largest private collections in the State of pictures, bronzes, and objects of art. The art gallery at Glenbank, for size and completeness, is even said to be unrivalled in New South Wales."  I am amazed I cannot find an image for this one.

Best wishes to all, and any help would be very much appreciated.

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