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Hi,

I'm struggling to find the marriage record of these two ancestors of mine.

According to the 1871 John was born in Cardiganshire in 1825. Jane is recorded as born in 1836 in Trewen, Denbighshire, Wales but this is recorded as Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant in the 1881 census.

Regarding my family tree I believe Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant to be an important place, so if it is that area it would help me with other avenues of research.

Again according to the 1871 census, seven of their children were born in Llanfihangel-Geneu'r-y-Glyn. However Mary who appears to be their first child is recorded as born in Pen-y-Bont, Montgomeryshire in 1855. Three more appear on the 1881 census.

Their daughter Adelaide Morgan is my gg grandmother and she married into a family from the Llanfyllin area whose family tree is quite detailed and well researched. It doesn't seem logical that the Mary above would be born in Penybont, Montgomeryshire thus I'm wondering if perhaps this may refer to penybontfawr where Adelaide's father in law Rev. Owen Evans (b 1829) was born and which is very close to Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant. Obviously I'm eager to know what Jane's maiden name is as this would greatly help with my research.
http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-EVAN-OWE-1829.html

Census information is also available on the Ceredigion Council website (link below)
https://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=11951

Lastly I wasn't sure what section of the website to pose this question as Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant seems to come under both Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire.

Hi,

I recently contacted a relative of my gg grandfather Edward George (b 1856, Flint Mountain, Flintshire) who lived at Bryn y Garreg, Flintshire and was a farmer, who said that his grandmother (Edward George's daughter Vera Doris George (b 1901, Flintshire) witnessed a family reunion at a train station when she was young. The family union happened at Flint Railway Station between the George's of Bryn y Garreg and David Lloyd George. I'm not sure whether Edward George was at that reunion as he thought DLG was a womaniser and disapproved of him but apparently there is a photo of Edward George and DLG's brother William somewhere, taken at flint railway station. I have been told there is a newspaper cutting of this, which sadly was lost when Vera died.

Thus, I have been trying to prove the connection through researching the family trees but I can find no connection, at least not after 1800.

The George's of Bryn y Garreg were coal miners and don't appear to have left Flintshire, going all the way back to 1841. Whereas DLG's George family tree were generally from around Pembrokeshire, although his LLoyd family were located further North iirc.

Can anyone here shed any light on any of this? I imagine the newspaper article must have been from around 1903-1910 . I've scoured the newspapers I have access to and can't find anything. Perhaps there was no newspaper article and it was just a photograph I dunno. It's a little frustrating to say the least.

I think Edward's mother Elizabeth may have been an Ellis, although a relative thinks she was a Morgan. The census records seem to indicate that Edward's father William (b~1814, Flintshire) had a brother called John, all born in Flintshire.

Hi,

I recently became aware that Owen Evans is one of my great grandfathers.  On Welsh Biography Online it lists him as being related (through his mother) to the Welsh poet Ann Griffths.
http://www.anngriffiths.cardiff.ac.uk/

EVANS , OWEN ( 1829 - 1920 ), Congregational minister and author ; b. 19 Nov. 1829 in Pen-y-bont-fawr, Mont. He hailed from a deeply religious family — on his mother's side he was related to the hymnist, Ann Griffiths (q.v.) .

http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/s-EVAN-OWE-1829.html?query=owen+evans&field=name

The first link below includes reference to Ann's siblings, and the second link includes detailed information about her family.
http://wbo.llgc.org.uk/en/s-GRIF-ANN-1776.html
http://www.anngriffiths.cardiff.ac.uk/biography.html

I have no access to parish records and I wondered if anyone could help me to establish the direct link between the two. I'm assuming, it's most likely that Owen is related to her through one of Ann's siblings as Ann's only child died a few months after birth.

Through help from others here, I think I've found Owen Evan's parish birth records.  It shows William Evans and Elizabeth Evans crhristening Owen Evans in
LLANFYLLIN,MONTGOMERY,WALES in 1829.



I guess the first thing I need to discover is the surname of Owen's mother. I believe there may be a clue in the following record from the 1841 census. Owen was born in PenybontFawr, so his address and the age of his parents are included below. The clue I think, is that someone called Edward Thomas (born  1826       Montgomeryshire) is also living at the address which is Ann Griffiths original surname


Interestingly, if you look at the 1881 census record of Owen's son William Henry Evans, it lists a a Grace Morgan living in that household as a 'sister in law'. This is probably irrelevant but one should note that Morgan was the surname of Ann Griffiths grandmother on her fathers side as is clear below.


Marriage of Evan Thomas and Elizabeth Morgan (the parents of Ann’s father)
http://www.anngriffiths.cardiff.ac.uk/biography.html


I know William Henry Evans is Owen's son because Helana Blodwen (misspelled on the transcript), also listed in the census is my great grandmother.

Any help greatly appreciated.