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Inverness / James and Isabella McIntosh
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, For many years I have researched James and Isabella McIntosh (nee Nisbet). They married in 1794, in Dunbar, whilst James was in the East Lothian Cavalry.  Their Children were all born in Edinburgh, namely James b 1807, David b 1809, William b 1812 (who I'm descended from) , and Jean Brown b 1816.
James Senior left the ELC in 1800 (but may have joined another unit) so there is quite a gap until the children arrived.  I've had no luck tracing William's brothers James and David, but Jean Brown married Robert Roycroft an ex Waterloo veteran and together with their family, sailed to New Zealand in 1847.  I'm in touch with the Roycroft descendants and James McIntosh Senior is No1 on their Family Tree.
So where did James and Isabella disappear to after the birth of their children?  I've recently unearthed an old 1841 Census record for the civil parish of Ardersier which gives a James McIntosh and his wife of the correct ages for my relatives.
They have an Elspeth McIntosh aged 25 and a John aged 8.  Knowing that there is a barracks nearby and thinking that one of his sons may have followed him into the Military is it too much to think that I've found James and Isabella at Last!
Can anyone assist in any way?
Kind Regards  Gordon McIntosh
 

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Antrim / The Dunachie Family (Various Spellings)
« on: Monday 21 July 14 18:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi, My wife's maiden name is Dunachie.  Her grandfather was John Ross Dunachie, a cabinet maker, who lived all of his life on Tyneside.
His father, another John, was a shoemaker, who was born in Glasgow in 1852.  He came down to Tyneside and in 1875 he married Janet Ross.
On their wedding certificate John's father, of the same name, was stated to be a Hatter.  It was aso John, the shoemaker's second marriage.
Through the Hatter connection I have traced the Family back to Glasgow and learned they arrived there from Ireland c. 1848.  However the spelling of the Dunachie name varies somewhat in the Glasgow Census Records :-
1871 John Donachie
1861 John Doneghy
1851 John Donaghy
John's wife was given as Margaret Badger in the census records.
Then I found a Marriage record (Via Roots Ireland ) for John Donoughy and Margaret Badger dated 23rd November 1841.  They were married at St. Patricks RC Church Belfast. 

Another Dunachie researcher has provided me with a Death Notice for John Donaghy, the hatter, who died in 1873 in Glasgow.  His father is given as Arthur Donaghy, Linen Weaver, and his mother is named as Sarah Neil, both deceased.

Can anyone please provide further info on :- Arthur Donaghy, the Weaver, or Sarah Neil his wife, or indeed Margaret Badger,John, the Hatter's wife.

The other Dunachie researcher is descended from John and Janet's daughter Sarah, so the family kept the Sarah name going.  They live in Australia.

Many thanks.
Gordon McIntosh

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / My McIntosh Family and my yDNA.
« on: Wednesday 22 January 14 14:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Whilst trying to further my Family History research I thought I would have my yDNA tested. The subsequent results for the 37 marker test show I am R1b1a2, but my matches have undoubtedly “thrown a spanner in the works”.

Let me explain.  As previously posted my great x2 grandfather was William McIntosh born 1812 in Edinburgh.  In the 1841 Census he was a Baker living with, and working for, James Haig at Slateford and later Colinton, both villages in those days near Edinburgh.

In 1842 William married Janet Hunter whose address, at the time of her marriage, was given as 4 Lyndoch Place, Edinburgh.  It is assumed she was in service there.

However, previously in 1841 Janet had given birth to twins, David and John, who initially lived with her parents; William and Christina Hunter at 50, Causewayside Edinburgh (Census Record 1841).  I have not been able to find their birth record.

In a later census (1851) William and Janet were living at Simon Square, Edinburgh with children David (b. 1841) and Christina (b. 1846). In this Census record Christina is said to have been born at Colinton which indicates that William spent more time in the vicinity of Colinton after his entry in the 1841 Census.

  I find it strange that John, actually named Hunter like David in the 1841 census continued to live with his Grandparents after William and Janet had settled down at Simon Square.  Perhaps he was ill at the time, as he sadly died on the 9th December 1851. He was buried at East Preston Road Cemetery in what appeared to be an unmarked Family Plot.  This is because both William Hunter (John and David’s grandfather) and William McIntosh (their supposed father ) are both buried there also.  The former on 29th March 1844 and the latter on the 30th July 1859.  It is worth pointing out that William Hunter was 56 when John and David were born, so he was unlikely to have been their father.

Note also that John died at 2 Home Street where in the 1851 Census he was living with his widowed grandmother Christina Hunter who was a lodging house keeper aged 60 years.  She would have been 50 when the twins were born!

So enter my yDNA results into the equation. Having uploaded my results to y Search I find that at a Genetic distance of 1 my closest match, with 25 markers compared, rather unexpectedly was with the Hayes family in the USA.  There were no McIntoshs named on the list apart from myself.

So what can be the explanation for the lack of McIntosh matches.  As I am undoubtedly descended from David it leads me to consider that  the twins, David and John, were not William’s children.

Whilst I could not find Janet Hunter in the 1841 Census at 4 Lyndoch Place, or anywhere else for that matter, ironically I did find an Edward Hay and a William Hayes  in a list of 100 soldiers at Canongate. (presumably Edinburgh Castle) ,or is this far too much of a coincidence?

So the search continues, were my ancestors named McIntosh or Hayes?

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully accepted.

G. McIntosh

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Midlothian / William McIntosh Baker Edinburgh
« on: Friday 08 March 13 15:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,
I do not think there is any doubt that my Great Great Grandfather was William McIntosh who was born in Edinburgh in 1812. In the 1841 Census he was a Journeyman Baker living with, and working for, James Haig, a Baker in Colinton.  According to Andrew Hunter of Edinburgh City Archives neither William or his Master Baker appear in the Scroll Record of Edinburgh Apprentices compiled by Dr. Marguerite Wood.
In 1842 William married Jessie Hunter, daughter of William Hunter ,a Carter from Causewayside.  It is believed that they had previously had twin boys born out of wedlock.  These boys, David and John, lived with their grandparents, whilst Jessie was in Service.  John died in 1851, aged 11yrs.
In the 1851 Census William and Jessie were living at Simon Square Edinburgh, with children David (aged 10yrs) and Christina (aged 5 yrs).
Due to depression apparently brought on by unemployment, William was admitted to Morningside Asylum in Edinburgh in 1858 and later died there in 1859  prematurely at the  age of 47 years.
Jessie and her two children next surfaced in Newcastle upon Tyne, where they appear in the 1861 census, living in the Westgate area of the city.
As I had no direct evidence of William's parents from either his Case notes or his marriage records I have long thought that William was the son of James McIntosh (b.1769) and Isabella Nisbet, who married in Dunbar  in 1794, whilst James was in the East Lothian Cavalry. According to the IGI & OPR's they had children :- James (b.1807), David (b.1809), William (b.1812), & Jean Brown (b.1816). All born in Edinburgh.
Seeking confirmation of William's parents I have visited Kew and examined James' service record and tried to trace William's siblings.
My only success was I managed to trace Jean Brown McIntosh.  In 1832 she married Robert Roycroft, a Waterloo Veteran. In 1847 they set sail for New Zealand with their family and started the Roycroft dynasty there.  Again nothing has emerged back from the many Roycoft descendents I am in contact with regards to Jean Brown McIntosh's father or siblings.
So whilst James and Isabella seem a "Good Fit" for William's Parents I have my doubts . Can anyone help please?  Regards  Gordon McIntosh

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Angus (Forfarshire) / James McIntosh East Lothian Cavalry
« on: Wednesday 14 March 12 21:19 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me please with regard to my Gx3 grandfather James McIntosh.  He was born in Edinburgh in c1769 and married an Isabella Nisbet in Dunbar in 1794 whilst he was in the East Lothian Cavalry. He features in the Muster Rolls at Kew. At one time in 1795 he was absent and Brechin added in the margin of the record.  Can you think of any reason why the regiment would visit the Brechin area? Or was he visiting family, as ironically I have found McIntosh's in your area :- William and Euphane (nee Hunter) had children with familiar names to my family eg Mary b 1786 and William b 1789 ( born Dundee), David b 1794 ( St Andrews) and Jean Brown b 1796, Euphan b 1797, and Summer Blair b 1800 (born at Brechin)  Indicating that this family moved around a lot (Military Service also?)
My James's family were all born in Edinburgh :- James b 1807, David 1809, William 1812 and another Jean Brown b 1816. I cannot find any reference to James and Isabella after the birth of their children, when James was listed as a Gentleman's Gentleman.
I hope you can possibly assist me?
 Kind regards,
Gordon McIntosh

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Lanarkshire / The Dunachie Family of Tyneside originally from Glasgow
« on: Wednesday 07 March 12 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

My wife’s grandfather James Ross Dunachie was one of seven children born to John and Janet Dunachie in Newcastle upon Tyne.
John married Janet Ross in 1875, and this was John’s second marriage. (I have been unable to trace his first marriage).  John was a shoemaker and  he was born in Glasgow in 1852, Janet was born in France in 1849.  John’s father, also John, was listed on the marriage certificate as a hatter,  whilst Janet’s father, Alexander, was a mason.

Janet had a child born out of wedlock and this son, Alexander Ross was living with his grandparents in the 1871 Newcastle Census.  In the 1891 Census, Alexander was listed with the other Dunachie Family and had thus been ‘adopted’.   The children were :- Alexander b 1870, John William b 1876, Margaret Jane b 1878, Edward b 1880, Adam b 1882, James Ross b 1884, Matthew b 1888, and Sarah b 1890.

Regarding John’s Scottish roots, in the Scottish Census for the Cathcart Civil Parish of Glasgow I have found inter related Dunachie Families living in adjacent houses.  The were all Bleachfield workers in the days before chemicals were used to bleach the calico.  The more senior members had been born in Ireland.

In the 1861 Scottish Census John Dunachie and Sarah (nee Perrie born Belfast) had a child named John b 1852.  As Sarah is now listed as a Domestic Derbier is it too much of a leap to assume that after the cessation of the Bleachfield work that John Senior became a Hatter and was thus the father of my wife’s grandfather?  John and Sarah’s family were :- William b 1850, John b 1852, James b 1855, Robert b 1858, Sarah b 1860, Thomas b 1862, Martha b 1867, Samuel Perrie b 1870.

Incidentally I have obtained two Dunachie Wills from Glasgow, namely for James dated 1893, and Thomas dated 1888 but I’m not sure if there is a family connection.

If anyone one could assist me in Tracing the Dunachie Family back to Glasgow it would be most appreciated.

Gordon McIntosh

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Northumberland / The Curry Family Stobbylee Farm.
« on: Friday 18 November 11 15:02 GMT (UK)  »


The Curry’s Of Stobbylee East Farm Whitley Chapel.

Curry was my mother’s middle name and I’ve traced the family back to the Stobbylee East Farm in the High Quarter of Hexhamshire.  I have Land Tax Returns naming John Curry as the occupant of this farm in 1780 and 1781.( Incidentally the same records show Joseph Armstrong as the Farmer for the West Farm and John Armstrong for Park House, see earlier threads re Armstrong by Moni 2008.)

Over the period 1780- 1813 at least 18 Curry births were registered at Whitley Chapel, having been born at Stobbylee.  John Curry was married in 1777 and William his brother (?) who farmed nearby at Lilswood, in 1779.  All of the respective families are detailed in the IGI  ( John 10 children and William 8 Children.)

I have a copy of John’s will and bequests are made to all of the Family including Thorngreen Lime Kiln and a Coal Pit.  The former is still in existence but unfortunately it is a Victorian replacement.  In addition the farm is still occupied, but as a single unit.

I am descended from John’s son Robert  (born 1787) who as a Master Mason moved down to the Coal Fields to sink mine shafts.  His son Robert (born 1823) similarly trained was also a Master Mason.

I have been unable to trace John And William’s parents.  Any help would be appreciated.

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