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Australia / Mystery Man Edward Townsend Foley
« on: Sunday 08 December 19 00:03 GMT (UK)  »
Maybe he wasn't born with that name but he had a 20 acre gold-mining lease from the Queen (Victoria) dated 12 Feb 1884 near Wellington in NSW;  he leased and ran the Corporation Baths in Sydney in 1887;  he had a business premises destroyed by fire in Bodangora, near Wellington in January 1903 (nothing to suggest it was his business, just his premises) and died at his residence 69 Brown Street, Paddington, on 30th March 1904; his given age at that time is indecipherable but is either 73 or 78.   His surname suggests he was Irish but I have been unable to so much as find his death certificate.   If anyone can help find this elusive man, I offer my grateful thanks in advance, :D

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England / Sailing ship Arundel - not Arundel Castle
« on: Wednesday 08 May 19 05:28 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone please help with information regarding the 'Arundel' ship which left from Plymouth and reached Melbourne about Nov 24, 1852 according to local newspapers?   I have done numerous searches for this vessel but am continually referred to the 'Arundel Castle', which was in service much later.  I have no details of where the ship was registered but have tried to find some records in both Plymouth and Liverpool but nothing shows up.   The Ships List and various other lists/websites simply don't have an 'Arundel.  Any ideas, anyone?   ;)

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Australia / Can anyone help find our Mary ...
« on: Tuesday 28 October 14 07:05 GMT (UK)  »
Mary Murphy married Ggrandpa Thomas Minton in NZ  (Brighton, West Coast) in 1867.   She was 18 (needed permission to marry) and ggpa 34.   We've tracked ggpa right back to his hometown of Clerkenwell, London, UK, have his death notices and even a newpaper photograph (he was a musician).   But Mary is elusive.   They had six children, 2 born NZ, 2 born Victoria, 2 born NSW, the last one born and died in 1882.   Gma's birth certificate suggests Mary was born in Victoria, but try as we might we've been unable to find any details of Mary's parents, birth, siblings, or even her death.   We suspect a sister, Letitia, who appeared as a witness to Mary's Marriage and later the same year married John Patrick Thomas in Charleston, NZ.   But Letitia could have been a cousin or even an aunt.   Margarita Newberry gave permission to Mary;  but we can find no link via the NZ boards that ties Mary and Margarita together.   Can some kind, diligent, RootsChatterer (?) please suggest how we might find our Mary?     :-*   

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Who was Mary Murphy?
« on: Tuesday 21 October 14 07:58 BST (UK)  »
Mary married my great grandpa, Thomas Minton, on 6th May 1867 at Brighton (sth of Dunedin);  marriage certificate shows she was 18 and permission to marry was granted by Margarita Newberry, of the Empire Hotel.   Witness to the marriage was Letitia Murphy.   Mary had been in Brighton for 6 months and Thomas for 1 month.   Thomas was considerably older (34) but their first child wasn't born for 12 months so no shotgun (as far as we know ;) ).   With the previous help of Rootschatterers, we've traced Thomas back to his birth in Clerkenwell, UK.   But Mary remains a mystery.   Can anyone help with information concerning Margarita Newberry, Letitia Murphy and our Mary Murphy?   Can't find birth details or immigration records - but I may not be looking in the right places.   Any suggestions?   

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Australia Lookups completed / MINTON, Thomas - cello player COMPLETED
« on: Monday 20 February 12 06:54 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please help me with information concerning the forbear above?
Two Thomas Mintons arrived in Melbourne, one in 1852, aged 19, on the same ship as Benjamin Minton (later cited in a newspaper as one of the Minton Bros, of Ballarat, painters) and one in 1853 aged 17.
The second one's age matches the father's age given on his daughter's birth certificate (but what's a year or two between friends ;)).
One of the Thomas Mintons either already could play the cello and brass instruments or learned to play between arrival and 1862 when he is listed in the orchestra for Madame Carandini's English Opera Troupe performing at the Princess' Theatre, Dunedin.   There is no previous mention of a Thomas Minton in NZ. There are no death notices etc.  and I've been equally unsuccessful searching mainland newspapers for clues as to which of the two is the cello player and my ancestor.   
Does anyone know any more about this elusive man?
Any help very much appreciated :)
Odysseyov

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Thanks to all those wonderful folk (Althea, Lucy2, Deeiluka) who gave me so much information about forbear Thomas.
Problem is, I now have so many bits that don't fit, I'm not sure what to do next!
Facts:
Thomas was in Dunedin and played the cello at a daytime concert at the Princess Theatre Sept 23, 1862.   He may or may not have been part of the "English Opera Troupe" hired by Tom and Sanford Fawcett to "boost existing company" at the threatre (see history of Opera in NZ).   Family legend says he was English.  The troupe performed "Daughter of the Regiment" with Emma Neville starring.   The troupe is said to have arrived on Sept 18, 1862.
Apparently, Thomas stayed in the Dunedin area after the troupe moved on.   He contributed 10/6d to the St. Paul's Church Debt fund April, 1864 and was the beneficiary of a concert at Princess Theatre July, 1864 (sounds a bit contradictory?).   He advertised tuition in string and brass instruments from premises at Dowling St, Bell Hill, in 1865.
In 1867, he married Mary Murphy and their first son, William, was born in 1868.   In the interim, Oct 1867,  he apparently had an order appointing a trustee under the Insolvency Jurisdiction of the Westland District Court.   In March, 1868, he joined a company of Rifle Volunteers at Hokitika as a bugler.   In September,  Thomas Minton, painter, of Napoleon Hill, Province of Nelson was adjudicated bankrupt, gazetted accordinly in October and "left with only his fiddle which he needed to support his family (Otago Daily Times)."   Their second son, Louis Napoleon was born in 1870.   Thomas and Mary appear thereafter to have moved to Victoria, Australia, where their next child was born in 1872.
The description of Thomas as a painter links him with Benjamin Minton, who was described as part of Minton Bros., painters of Ballarat, and both a Benjamin and a Thomas Minton arrived in Victoria in 1852, with a William Minton also arriving in Victoria.   These three appear to be sons of Richard Minton, Plumber, and Maria, of Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England.   
Here are the things that seem inexplicable.
1     If my Thomas is related to and arrived with Benjamin, what happened in the years between 1852 and 1862 and why does Thomas not appear in Victoria as a musician when he is clearly well-trained?   I have done all kinds of searches without finding any mention of him.
2     Would a plumber, even one with several sons, have encouraged one of his boys to be a musician.
3     If my Thomas is not related to Benjamin, did he travel directly to NZ with the "Opera Troupe" and how would I find out?   None of the members mention (Emmas Neville, Madam Carandini, Madame Whyte, R. W. Kohler, Mons. Fleury, Mr. Cousins, Mr. Minton, Mr. Moss and Mr. Loder, appear on any passenger list to Australia or to NZ that I could access.
PLEASE HELP!
Odysseyov.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Minton, Thomas and Mary Murphy COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 14 February 12 06:24 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please look up for me the marriage between the two forbears above who were said to have married at Brighton, NZ, around 1865 give or take several years.   I cannot find any marriage record in the online search facility.   Their 1st child, William Thomas, was registered in 1868, and a second child, Louis Napoleon (I believe they were living at Napoleon Hill) in 1870.

Thanks in advance for any help and advice  :)

Odysseyov

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Minton, Thomas and Benjamin COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 14 February 12 06:17 GMT (UK)  »
Could any fellow researchers possibly help me find the date of arrival and departure of forbears as above who arrived in the Dunedin area of NZ about 1860 and left for Australia about 1870.   I have checked ship passenger lists available online without result.

Any help much appreciated. :)

Odysseyov.

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Australia / Thomas MINTON
« on: Friday 10 February 12 06:21 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone have information about Thomas MINTON, second name possibly William, no date of birth but thought to be born in 1834/1835 in London, England?

Apparently married Mary Murphy, described as born In Melborne, Victora, Australia, in Brighton, NZ

His occupation is described as "Musician."

He lived in Little Fleet Street, Melbourne, Vic. in 1874.

All of this information is from the birth certificate of one of his children.

Has anyone researched this man or can suggest where I might begin to look for him?

Any help much appreciated,

Many Thanks

Odysseyov.

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