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Having lost contact with P.W.T ( my South African contact ), I am hoping someone can help me with the document below, as I have no idea what it might be.
 It is taken from Free State Archives and it appears to concern one of my Great Grand Uncles - Henry Edward Tillman 1834-1900 and two of his three wives! Poor Caroline died in childbirth,after a few years he married Eliza Stevens and when she died - Emily ( Elizas's younger sister) who like Caroline is mentioned on the Document.
Have read off the following, worked out the English for Eggenotes & Gebore and now stuck !!

Depot : VAB - Source: MHG - Type: LEER - Volume NO: 0 - System:  01 -

Reference : T912 - Part: I -  Description ( As above - except Eliza not mentioned!)

Starting and ending both 18990000

Henry Edward was a Carriage Lamp Maker, who lived worked - and as far as I can see died in London  - so maybe concerns only Emily??

Long long time since I was down your way ( on the 'lavender HULL boats')

If I press right buttons maybe what I am trying to attach will work took this on'naf' camera April 1952  while on the M.V.Richmond Castle - might be of interest as they will be , I am sure someone's Mum or Gran.

Best John1935

Good morning Suffolk

Hope you are not as cold as we are. Walter was my Great Grandfather's nephew, who as I used to run into Ipswich (at that time he was there) on the 'Esso Genesse' and later 'Cliff Quay' in  the late 1950's I could have met but never did!

Walter John Tillman was born in West Hampstead, London in 1873 and died in Ipswich in 1962, hence my suffolk search.
Walter's earlier life, while he lived in London, I have found, plus he was a keen cyclist with Hampstead 'Pegusus Club' - in WWI he was with the Royal Engineers, came out married Elizabeth Frett in 1924, and at that time was a Clerk with the Admiralty, in 1925 they were both living still in London - but after that NOTHING till :

Just before WWII he shows up at Bury St Edmunds , working as a clerk but  single, the address : 17,Bloomfield street ( at the same time wife Elizabeth shows up still in London -married but separated) Then nothing till his death in 1962 while living at 711 Woodbridge road Ipswich.

Only Electoral rolls I can see from over here are London!

Best

John 1935

 

I am searching for anything on John Tillman 1845 - 1896 and his son Walter John Tillman 1875 -1962.
John I know was a Bandmaster with Tower Hamlets Volunteer Rifle brigade for nearly 20 years and I have most of the newspaper articles from British newspapers, however I find that for some strange reason Hampshire Archives have the following records :

Reference:   170A12
Description:   additional records comprising muster rolls of the Rifle Brigade, 17th London Regiment Tower Hamlets Rifles, 28th London Regiment (Artists Rifles), war diaries, photographs, maps, personal documents, memoirs, scrapbooks
Date:   1760-1930
Held by:   Hampshire Archives and Local Studies, not available at The National Archives

One such is:
170A12W/D/4215
Title   The Tower Hamlets Rifles: A Short History
Date   1985
Description   Typed document by Tom Craze
Admin history   RB
Also 170A12W/D/0871 REGARDING Bandmasters

Walter might also have been in the same brigade though on the R.E. SIDE.
I do not live in UK and so unable to visit and find their charges out of my reach.

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John1935

Part.1. Is on London Forum.

Why N.Z. - Well in Elizabeth's book on page 389  - Quote:
" Thomas became a Methodist Minister. His Elder son, Harry, took an active part in Local Government and a street in Christchurch is named after him. His DAUGHTER, Ivy (Mrs Peterson, nee Tillman), was much respected and lived to the great age of almost 104."

If the family are still around a  point that they might not know is that Elizabeth's Great Grandfather George Tillman 1805 - 1882 had a daughter, named Lavinia, who married William Angas  - and one of their sons, with wife and children also came out to N.Z. In turn giving birth to one of your 20th century Tennis champions.
Part.1.
I would have known Grand Aunt Elizabeth Mary Tillman,( my Father's cousin ), but fate got in he way and we never met.
Elizabeth's father Frank and my Grandfather Henry Edward, were the last of the Tillman Carriage Lamp Makers and worked close together  - so I might well assume that my Father, Frank Henry Tillman b. 1907 would have had contact with Elizabeth, however, the fact that he was killed in 1944, was I think the fate that got in the way.
All that I have found out so far, apart from the fact that Elizabeth wrote the book " Getting to the Roots of the Family Tree: The Story of a Saxon Family" - is from a Lady from the States who met her once and was kind enough to give me a photo of Elizabeth, the fact that she worked in the civil service and in 1934 was with the Post Office in the London Telephone Service with an Executive position. It also appears that Elizabeth, in her spare time, apart from searching very old 13th century 'Tillmans' - went in for painting, according to a newspaper article of the 1950's she exhibited her work ( the watercolour " Box High Woods") in The Post Office Artist International Exhibition in London.
Any information that helps me know who Auntie really was would be nice.

Best

John 1935

Young Thomas Sand was in 1868 an apprentice on the 'Royal Arch', when her Captain died in Sulina Roumania - this was the ship's maiden voyage.
The next info I have on Thomas is a letter of recommendation, when the 'Tillman's ships were sold in  1876  and Thomas left their employ - it appears that Thomas had served on both the 'Lady of the Lake' and the 'Royal Arch'.

Searching for what happened to Thomas and the 'Lady of the Lake' ( after it was sold ).

Best

John 1935