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 My great great grandfather Thomas Comb/Combs/Combe was born illegitimately in Broadway Worcestershire in 1788. His mother was Sarah Comb/Combs/Combe. He was baptised at St Eadburgha's Church in Broadway. When he was 10 he was apprenticed to James Bee a tailor of Sevenhampton (UK, Register of duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures).
I suspected that possibly this James Bee was his biological father because I found in National Archives a reference to "James Bee who abandoned his family" in Craven family of Brockhampton Park papers. I cannot find where I kept a copy of this reference on my desk top so that last source is from memory  ???
My brother had his Y-DNA tested. He was matched with a Bee man whose 6th Great Grandfather was John Bee, the brother of the James Bee who apprenticed my GG Grandfather. This was a very close match.
Is there any way to prove that James was my 3 x great grandfather.
I know it is a tough one,
LNC

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Missing Randerson family from Saxton in early 1800s
« on: Monday 29 June 20 01:55 BST (UK)  »
I thought I had my 3 x great grandfather John Randerson's parentage sorted until I found out he probably couldn't be the son of William Randerson (1785 -1845) and Elizabeth Hartley of Leeds.
I thought I had found an obscured baptism in Leeds St Peter records dated 24 February 1805 for John son of William (it looked like Randerson with a blot on it, but it could very well have been Robinson now I look at it again). I adopted this baptism as my John Randerson's even though that William Randerson had not married Elizabeth Hartley until 24 Jun 1805.
Some researchers think that my John Randerson, who lived out his life as a labourer in East Keswick and Bardsey, and who gave his birth place in census for 1851 and 1861 as Saxton and East Keswick respectively, was the one born to William and Elizabeth in Leeds in 1807. However, I have just found a burial for this John Randerson in St John the Evangelist church, Leeds, in 1829 at the age of 21.
Also there are marriages at Saxton-in-Elmet of Ellen or Eleanor Randerson to John Addinell in 1832 and Ann Randerson to Joe Simpson in 1833, but no births around 1810 in Saxton area for these women.
My great great great grandfather only had one son whom he named Joseph. Is this a clue to the name of his father?
I have found a DNA link that is quite remote to a person descended from William Randerson and Hannah Dunston from the Doncaster area. I do not know whether Randerson is where our DNA coincides so it is very hard to draw any conclusions from this.
Can anyone please help with ideas of where this ancestor of mine could have been born? ???

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My great great great aunt Christina Palsdotter was born in Ausas, Skane, Sweden on 14 March 1845. She emigrated to America in mid 1870. I have found records about this. She was in the 1870 US census in La Porte Indiana (Christini Paulson female servant). She married Perry Johnson (also from Sweden?) on 11 Dec 1870 in La Porte city (Indiana marriage indexes - C. Pahlsson).
From then on she disappeared. Except that we have a photo that is labelled on the back as Christina. She was sitting with a man whom we have assumed was Perry Johnson even though he looks younger than Christina. Christina looks quite old and gaunt in her headscarf. The studio where the photo was taken was in Oskaloosa Iowa as this is embossed on the corner of the photo.
In my public tree on Ancestry I once put her death record as occuring on 30 Sep 1899 in Chicago and her burial in Graceland Cemetery. However, after my mother's cousin wrote to Graceland, that Christina turned out to be the wife of Reinhold Johnson, so maybe not the same person?
We have spent many hours trying to follow Christina and Perry in USA in vain.  ???

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I am doing research for a friend. One of her ancestors, John White, born in Birmingham in 1844, married Jane__________? about 1878 or 1879, (from 1911 census) and had children who were baptised in Gorton St Marks, starting from Albert Edward White in 1883, Jane White in 1884, Florence Constance in 1886 (she died in Chorlton in Jan 1888), Edith White baptised in 1888, - all the Children of John, butcher and Jane White of 15 Great Jackson St, Gorton - I found these baptisms in Lancashire Parish clerk website. The only censuses I can find this family in are the 1901 and 1911 when they have moved to Aston, Birmingham. Other children were born in Chorlton district - Minnie 1890, Charles 1893, Ernest Ephraim White 1896 and Percy 1899. In 1901 John is using the first name James and working as a labourer in an iron foundry not a butcher. He lived with Jane and 6 remaining children (Albert and Florence died in Lancashire as babies). I don't know why they can't be found in West Gorton in the 1891 census, I cannot find any more information about John (James) White or his wife Jane (maiden name unknown but friend's mother thought she was known as Elizabeth or Minnie!)
Would be very grateful for any help at all please. ???

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Hi, I can't find my gg grandmother in the 1851 census at age 16 or 17. I assume she left her family in Colton area of Whitkirk to work, probably as a domestic servant, closer to Leeds. She married my gg grandfather Samuel Hartley a shoemaker from Chapel Allerton on 26/4/1858 in St Peter's Church, Leeds. The marriage record shows her as a spinster of St John's Court. I think this was off Chapeltown Rd??
In 1851 Samuel, also born 1834 but in Bramhope, was an apprentice living with James Wood, his master, in Chapel Allerton. I don't know where or when Sam and Susannah met.
Can anyone help please, I've tried all permutations of Susie, Suzey, Susan and also Townsend in case the enumerator heard or name wrong and I can't find her anywhere?
Is there anyway to search a census by place?

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The Common Room / Emma Combe, called wife, 1881 & 1891, no husband
« on: Thursday 13 January 11 03:08 GMT (UK)  »
I have a distant cousin Emma Combe, [sometimes spelt Comb/Coombe]. She was born in 1850 in Birdlip Gloucestershire to Alfred Combe and Mary Ann Farley.
I have found Emma Combe born in Birdlip, living in London, in 1881 Census and 1891 census. This is probably someone whose first name is Emma who married a Combe, and the fact that she was born in Birdlip is a co-incidence.
However, in both censuses, she is described as a wife, not a widow, and she has an ever-increasing brood of children. The first three - Thomas, probably William Thomas, from the free BMD, 1875; Mary M L in the census, possibly Mary Lydia Combe born Hackney, Mar qtr 1878; and George born sep qtr 1881 Hackney - were all born around London. The next three - Joseph born mar qtr 1884 Lewisham; Charles Victor Combe born Mar qtr 1885 Lewisham; and John Henry H Combe born Dec 1890 were described in 1891 census as being born in Brockley, Kent (i.e. Lewisham). Once again in 1891 Emma is a wife with no husband.
I have tried all sorts of theories like she was my cousin going by her maiden name and her husband was a professional man who lodged in the city and did not want to acknowledge his wife and children in his profession.
I can't find any marriage between an Emma and a Combe that fits. Can anyone sort this out please and work out what is happening?
I do know that this Emma from the censuses was free to marry William Wightman in 1900 in Lewisham and was living with him with her two youngest Combe children. I can't find the death of her husband. Maybe she divorced him?
Please help! ???

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I found an old message on genforum from 2001 about George Samuel Hartley, born 1895 in Wigton, near Leeds, who was a grocery manager for Co-Op stores in Skipton, West Yorkshire until his death in the 1960s. I have found him as a grocer's assistant in Skipton in 1911 census so I am pretty sure we are talking about the same one.
The message sender's surname was possibly Earnshaw and he lived in Colne. George Samuel Hartley was his grandfather. G. S. was also my great-grandfather, Frederick Hartley's, nephew. We have photos of George as a boy, here in Australia, that the enquirer may not have ever seen.
I tried sending an email to the enquirer using his genforum email address, but have not yet received a reply.
I am guessing that a daughter of G.S. Hartley married an Earnshaw and this would be the enquirer's parents. I found a possible pair: - Leonard Earnshaw married Annie Hartley in Nelson in Mar qtr 1941 in freebmd.org.uk.
I would be so thankful if someone would put me out of my misery about getting so near yet so far to contacting descendant of George Samuel Hartley!

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Australia / James Hogan (1813-1885)? Orange NSW
« on: Thursday 29 January 09 05:26 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please shed some light on this very elusive great great grandfather?
This is what I know:
James Hogan (carpenter) of Frederick's Valley married Bridget Collins of possibly Sidmouth Valleyon August 11th 1846 in St Michael's Roman Catholic church Bathurst. I sighted this certificate in Supplementary Indexes at Archives back in 1982. (His occupation of carpenter was recorded on his daughter Mary Ann's marriage certificate).
The dates for James Hogan in the Subject - 1813 -1885 are based on conjecture. If the James Hogan who died in Bathurst in 1885 aged 72 no parents names given was my James Hogan then he had to have been born in 1813 or 1814.

 I have found one convict James Hogan from Ireland who came on the Hive (last journey 1835) who matches this age (21 in 1835). He was assigned to work for Charles Booth in Bathurst about whom I have found some information on the web.

James keeps on disappearing e.g. in Greville's 1872 Directory only his wife Mrs Bridget Hogan is shown as a farmer of Gosling Creek. She was by now having a relationship with William Dawson and had several children by him already, so maybe that is why James is no longer around. Or was he is jail??

There are children listed on her death certificate (Bridget Dawson- parents Michael and Catherine - I know this is correct because I have her shipping details from 1841) in 1889 from her first marriage who I cannot find in the NSW BDM e.g. my great grand-mother Mary Ann born about 1850, James born about 1855 and John born about 1857.

Other children of James and Bridget that I do know all about are Ellen born 1848, d. 1929 married Denis Brogan; Patrick (1859-1903) married Mary Austin; Michael b. 1853, d. before 1889; Bridget (1849-1884) married Patrick Kilbride Butler and Thomas (1868-1938) married Eliza Morris.

Where should I look to try and find out who James was, where he came from? ???

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Stutton 1841/1851 Census look up BIRDSALL
« on: Thursday 01 January 09 23:59 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for my great great grandfather's sisters. I think they must have died before adulthood.
One was Ann Birdsall daughter of John and Sarah baptised at Tadcaster 1828.
One was Bessie Birdsall -same parents - baptised 8/8/1830 also at Tadcaster.
My great great grandfather William Birdsall was born in 1832 at Wingate Hill near Stutton. I don't know if this means that that is where the family lived. I think I found somewhere that Wingate Hill is a farm.
If anyone can help, this Aussie would be most grateful. ::)


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