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Lancashire / Upper dalton street ? West derby
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 09:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi all 😊
I wonder if anyone knows exactly where upper dalton street was c1890?  West derby area.  Hoping to find it on an ordnance survey map. And info about the area too.

Thank you in advance!

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The Common Room / seeking living people - where please
« on: Tuesday 08 March 16 14:30 GMT (UK)  »
I am aware discussing living people is not ok here.  I met a man via this board in 2014 who is a cousin.  he only posted 3 times then disappeared.  what transpired is he is the son of a formerly unknown child of my dads cousin.  His mother was born to my dads cousins first wife. Later this first cousin remarried and had more children with his 2nd wife who are the kids (in their late 50s) we know of.  These children are still alive and did not know about their half sister until this serendipitous meeting on rootschat.  Another of my cousins from that family line began to try to gently handle it to figure out if contact could be made.  But as quickly as we found this man, he disappeared.  I am unsure if he was just new to rootschat (he only posted 3 times and never logged in under that username again) or if he doesn't want contact. 

But he seemed very keen.. he also has siblings I believe. these are all the half nephews/nieces of my dads cousins other kids.  these cousins have now had to come to terms with the fact they had a sister (I believe she has been deceased since 2001) and they have nieces/nephews out there.  And now we cant find the rootschat member :(

Where could I go with this info for assistance tracing these nieces and nephews?

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Carlow / Cathedral of assumption carlow marriages pre 1833?
« on: Thursday 29 October 15 09:29 GMT (UK)  »
I have a marriage from rootsireland of a couple that married in Oct 1826.  The record states Parish/District: Parish / District: Cathedral Of The Assumption Co. Carlow.  But the Cathedral apparently did not begin to be built to 1826.

Does anyone know what church the couple would have married in?
Wife was from Rathoe (Carlow), Husband from Baltinglass (Wicklow) but both were living in Dublin.  They appear to have married in Carlow town?

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Westmeath / St Marys Athlone Baptism 1876
« on: Wednesday 21 October 15 03:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone  ;D

I found a RC baptism in Athlone Westmeath in 1876, on rootsireland.  It seems to be the baptism of my great grandfather, but it is full of transcription errors.

I looked on the NLI-CPR site and from what I can tell this must be St Marys parish.  Is this the only option?

I could not see many 1876 record options for St Marys Athlone on the NLI site and the few available didn't SEEM to include my great grandfathers baptism.

I am wondering how I find out where the rootsireland transcript is from?  If it is not in the NLI records, who would have it?  Why would the NLI have some but not all available records for St Marys?

Advice appreciated.

Angela

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The Common Room / How to accurately record a familial adoption
« on: Friday 25 September 15 17:18 BST (UK)  »
My Uncle and Aunty formally adopted and raised one of their sons children.
So that child is the formal child of my uncle and aunty by law and by the way she was raised - making her my first cousin (by adoption). 
But she is the biological child of my first cousin - making her my first cousin once removed.

It would be inappropriate not to include her in my list of first cousins because my uncle and aunty insisted on a formal adoption which was accepted by my cousin.

So should I just record her as an adopted child of my uncle and aunty or should I record her as the biological child of my first cousin?  Or some other method?

Help appreciated! ???

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Irish place name in Roscommon
« on: Friday 21 August 15 14:45 BST (UK)  »
This latest UK census snip is written by someone whose literacy was not great, I can't figure out where in Roscommon they are saying this person was born.
The transcriber thought Benlock
The person was born c1840
Does anyone have any suggestions (I have searched Roscommon placenames, including Townlands, Parishes, Towns, Lochs, and cant see anything similar.

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World War One / Struggling to find my great grandfathers record
« on: Sunday 16 August 15 07:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone!
My surviving aunty said my great grandfather was in WW1 and was injured via gas.
His name was Edward Miller, and from what we have found he was born around 1878/79. (likely nov/dec 1878)

Backstory:
He married my great grandmother 21st January 1915, despite them seemingly having kids together from 1901 and them showing up as a family in 1911 census.  I think they formally married because he was concerned he would have to join WW1.  On the marriage certificate he is listed age 34. 

We have found a matching local family for him.  He seems to have been born out of wedlock and taken his mothers maiden name (father Langan).  Soon after, his mother seems to have died and he was raised by his grandfather.  If everything is correct he lived his whole life in Garston, Liverpool (aside from a short stint near Lime St liverpool with his mother as an infant).  He survived the war and appears to have died in 1938.

His name is quite common and I assume his actual ww1 documents were destroyed(?) so it is a matter of finding the closest match and then ruling that match out, at the moment.

The closest match I have found has a few points in its favour and few points against it.

Points in favour are the age of the Edward Miller, the fact he got the Silver War Medal for being unfit for further service, and that the regiment he joined was in Lancashire.

 Possible points against it are that the regiment was raised in Warrington, which is a fair way from Garston (well not really but there were closer regiments being raised at the time) and that there are births/residences for other Edward Millers of very similar ages in Liverpool and Manchester areas, and particularly I wonder if a Manchester resident was more likely to join a warrington reigment?

Here are the details of the match:
 Name: Edward Miller

Rank: Private

Regimental Number: 17072

Regiment/Corps: 8ths Battalion, Prince of Wales Volunteers (South Lancashire Division), 25th Division, 75th Brigade (raised in sept 1914 in Warrington, part of kitcheners 3rd new army, and 8th bttn was a service bttn)

Date of Enlistment: Sept 3 1915

Date First Entered Theatre of War: Sept 28 1915 (France)

Date Discharged: March 14 1918

From where Discharged: South Lancs Division Depot

Reason for Discharge: Honourable early discharge as no longer fit for war service (KR XVI)

Age at Discharge: 39 yrs, 4 months (DOB around nov/dec 1878)

Medals: 1914-1915 Star; Victory Medal; British Medal; Silver War Badge #352643 (Honourable Discharge).

Records I have found:
1) Medal Card for Edward Miller 17072
2) Victory and British Medal Honour Roll Entry
3) 14-15 Star Honour Roll Entry
4) Silver War Badge Honour Roll Entry
5) And the war diary for the 8th Battalion

Does anyone have an opinion about whether someone from garston would join via warrington?  Or any advice for me to try to prove/disprove this match or find my great grandads true information?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / YDNA results - no matching surname
« on: Wednesday 29 July 15 18:33 BST (UK)  »
My dads FTDNA Y67 shows no Harrisons at any level.  Many of the better matches are Welsh Patronymic Surnames.  This leads me to think the line is recently (200-250 yrs ago) Welsh, and Harrison was the patronymic surname which converted to a fixed surname.  Does this sound right? 

I know it can often mean a Non Paternal Event.  But the fact that the closest matching surnames and most frequent surnames are Lewis, Davis, Davies, Rogers, Phillips, Williams, and more, and some of those people have Most Distant Known Ancestors in Wales, seems to suggest its plausible my family are very recent fixed surname uptakers and used patronymic surnames as late as c1800.

I can test distant cousins to confirm I have the right family tree, and if so, I have papertrail records that take me back with certainty to my gg grandfather in 1828, aged c18ish.  On that 1828 record he said he was born in dublin (and he was in dublin at the time, and returned there in his old age) and in later records named his father (my ggg grandfather).  But I've not been able to find his birth c1809-1812, or link him to the man he names as his father (who is also named as being a Harrison, and who I can predict was born c1785).

My current prediction is my ggg grandfather (b abt 1785) was indeed a harrison, but got his surname via the patronymic way - ie his own fathers forename was Henry or Harry, and he became a Harrison.  But it just so happened that his own son was born at about the time surnames changed from patronymic to fixed in Wales (c1809-1812) and he decided to give his son (my gg grandfather) the surname Harrison too, instead of his own forename as the sons surname.  Make sense?   :-[

I feel overwhelmed having to look at a whole new country, particularly Wales.  Daunting.  As if England, Ireland and Scotland didn't already take me years to become a solid novice at researching!

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There is an occupation listed twice on this snippet which seems to be 2 letters, a space then 1 letter.  Does anyone know what it is?

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