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Lanarkshire / DONALDSON, Malcolm, ?born in Denny 1856/57 grew up in Glasgow
« on: Thursday 30 January 14 09:00 GMT (UK)  »
I have been unable to find a birth registration for my great grandfather, Malcolm Donaldson, born around 1856-57.  In the 1861,1871 and 1881 censuses, he is in the household of George Donaldson in Glasgow and his place of birth is given as Denny Stirlingshire (Linlithgowsh. in 1871).  In 1861 and 1881 he is listed as "son" of George and Barbara Donaldson.  In the 1871 census, he is listed as "foster son".

Once married and head of his own household, he gives his place of birth as Glasgow in subsequent censuses.  He was a french polisher.

If he was indeed a foster son of George Donaldson, then I imagine his original surname may not have been Donaldson, which may be why I can't find his birth reg. 

Any pointers to how to solve this?

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Stirlingshire / DONALDSON, Malcolm, ?born in Denny 1856/57
« on: Thursday 30 January 14 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
I have been unable to find a birth registration for my great grandfather, Malcolm Donaldson, born around 1856-57.  In the 1861,1871 and 1881 censuses, he is in the household of George Donaldson in Glasgow and his place of birth is given as Denny Stirlingshire (Linlithgowsh. in 1871).  In 1861 and 1881 he is listed as "son" of George and Barbara Donaldson.  In the 1871 census, he is listed as "foster son".

Once married and head of his own household, he gives his place of birth as Glasgow in subsequent censuses.

If he was indeed a foster son of George Donaldson, then I imagine his original surname may not have been Donaldson, which may be why I can't find his birth reg. 

Any pointers to how to solve this?

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Orkney / Wartime accident Malcolm Sim
« on: Friday 22 November 13 11:31 GMT (UK)  »
My father was sent to work in Orkney as a civilian during the war.  He was badly injured in a fall from a pylon sometime in 1943-44.  Can anyone help me find more information about this.  He was admitted to hospital, where he was left overnight to see if he would survive or not.  He did.  He had his right arm amputated by the surgeon Mr McClure.  He made a good recovery, but was always very reluctant to talk about the accident.  I wondered if there might have been a report in a local newspaper?

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I'm trying to confirm the parents of Margaret Reid, born 28 June 1770 in Dundee.  Her parents are given on GROS OPR births 282/00 0050 0489 as David Reid, a weaver and Jean Smith. 

There are various Ancestry family trees which give David Reid's parents as John Reid and Agnes Murray with John Reid having a line of descent from the Lord High Treasure of Scotland in the 15th century.  I can't figure out the source.

My problem is that this David Reid , son of John and Agnes, was born in Dysart in Fife.  GROS (282/00 0040 0266) has a David Reid who was born in Dundee, son of William Reid and Jean White, who I think may be a more likely candidate (unfortunately without the distinguished lineage!).  How do I sort this out and confirm the correct parents for David Reid?

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Father of this family was James Sim, born about 1854 in Dundee; died at sea 16th November 1905.  He was a joiner, who later became a ship's carpenter and it was while working as a carpenter on the Ancenis that he was swept overboard and drowned.

The mother was Elizabeth Jane Benny.  She was born 27th October 1853 in East Borland, Denny, Stirlingshire.  She and James Sim married on 24th June 1879 in Dundee.  She was a Milliner.  they had 7 children:

William James Benny Sim was born 11th July 1880 in Dundee.  He was a Stationer's Porter.  He married Barbara Donaldson 9th September 1904 in Glasgow.  They had one son, Malcolm, born 16th November 1906.  Barbara died in 1907 of TB and William returned to Dundee, where he died 20th July 1942.

Ann Sim was born prematurely in October 1881 in Dundee and lived only 3 days.

The next two children, Robert and Annie, were both born in Renfrew.  Renfrew is on the River Clyde and there was a strong shipbuilding industry.  My guess is that James Sim may have moved there to work as a joiner/carpenter on the ships, but it's just a guess.

Robert was born on 24th January 1883 and served in the Royal Highlanders and the SW Borderers.  He served in India while in the army (info from his father's testament) and the SW Borderers were certainly in India at the time in question.  He married Maud Louisa May Sider in June 1913 and had a son, Leslie Robert in September 1913 in Medway, Kent. 

Annie was born 23rd January 1885.  She was living with her grandparents, Donald and Sarah Sim and brother William in Coupar Angus at the 1891 census.  Donald Sim died in 1894.  In the 1901 census, Annie and Sarah Sim were living at 5 Reid Street, Govan (also a shipbuilding area), Glasgow and this is also the UK address given in James Sim's testament.  Annie married Joseph George Reynolds in 1907 and they remained in Glasgow.  They had 3 daughters.  One, Annie Sim Reynolds, died as a toddler of TB.  The other 2 still have family members in the Glasgow area.

The next of James and Elizabeth's children was Janet Benny Sim, born 25th May 1888 in Dundee.  The 1891 census shows her living with Robert and mother Elizabeth in King Street, Broughty Ferry (which is very close to Dundee).  She married Archibald Rogers in Liverpool in 1908 - her address on the marriage registration was in Dundee.  Archibald was killed in WW1.  Their son, Henry John Rogers was born in 1909 and he was killed during WW2 when his ship was torpedoed by a German U-boat.  There was also a daughter, but I don't have details, other than that she was known as "Bunt".

Janet remarried in 1923 to William Henry Bomford.  They had 2 children, Vera and William Douglas (known as "Douglas" or "Doug".  Vera settled in Panama  and Douglas lived in Chile, Peru and Panama before settling in Florida.  He died in September 2013.  Janet settled in Wallesey in the Birkenhead area of Merseyside.  she died in 1970.

The next child was Donald, born 13th April 1892 in Broughty Ferry.  I haven't located him in the 1901 census.  In the 1911 census he was with the Air Battalion of the Royal Engineers in Aldershot.  He married Annie Dodds and settled in the Birkenhead area.  He died in 1955.

The youngest child was David Taylor Sim, born 3rd November 1893 in Broughty Ferry.  I can't locate him in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  He married Florence Teggins in 1922 and they lived in Wallesey, Birkenhead.  He was a baker / confectioner.  He died in 1972.

I would be really interested to here more about this family. 

I've not really discovered anything about Elizabeth Jane Benny/Sim after 1893 (the birth of the David Taylor Sim) although there was an Elizabeth J Sim who died in 1931 in Wallesey, who might be her.  I haven't worked out how Janet, Donald and David all wound up in Wallesey/Birkenhead.  the other strange thing is that James Benny's testament was handled by Annie Sim, who at that time stated that she had not heard from her mother in 12 years and the only sibling she makes reference to is a brother in the army in India (who would be Robert) so it seems that she had also lost touch with older brother William (who was actually living only a few miles away in a different part of Glasgow at the time) and the younger siblings, Janet, Donald and David.

I have the birth registrations for all the siblings, showing parents James Sim and Elizabeth m.s. Benny and the correct date and place of their marriage, so am confident that there's no mistake about parentage, but piecing together the movements of the various family members is proving a challenge.

Any help out there?

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Does anyone have any information about the daughter of Archibald Rogers (born 28 June 1882, Southwark, London; died 27 September 1917 kia in WW1) and Janet Benny Sim (born 25 May 1888, Dundee; died 1970 Wallesey, Birkenhead). 

Archibald and Janet married in 1908 and Henry was born in 1909, so it's likely that the daughter would have been born sometime between 1910 - 1918.

I think the daughter may have been known as "Bunt", but I don't know her actual first name.  She had a brother, Henry John (born 7 May 1909, Toxteth Park, Liverpool; died July 1941 in WW2).

Janet Rogers remarried in 1923 - her second husband was William Henry Bomford.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / SIM
« on: Friday 08 November 13 13:02 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone have information about Elizabeth Jane Sim (m.s. Benny) who was born in October 1853 in Denny, Stirlingshire.  She married James Sim on 24th June 1879 and had 7 children:

William James Benny Sim (1880-1942) Dundee/Glasgow
Ann Sim (October 17th - 20th 1881) Dundee
Robert Sim (1883-1965) Renfrew/ Broughty Ferry/ British Army/ Lancashire
Annie Sim (1885-1927) Renfrew/ Coupar Angus/ Govan/Glasgow
Janet Benny Sim (aka "Jessie") (1888-1970) Dundee /Broughty Ferry/ Wallesey, Cheshire
Donald Sim (1892-1955) Broughty Ferry/ Royal Engineers/ Birkenhead
David Taylor Sim (1893-1972) Broughty Ferry/ Wallesey.

She was in Broughty Ferry in the 1891 census but I can't find her in the 1901 or 1911 censuses.  She was still in Broughty Ferry in 1893 when the youngest child was born, but I don't know what became of her thereafter.

The family may have split up - some of the children were living with grandparents in earlier censuses and the 3 youngest children, as adults, were all in the Wallesey/Birkenhead area while the two oldest (surviving) children lived in Scotland as adults in Glasgow and Dundee.

Robert I think settled in Southport

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