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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Brickwall Connections, DNA matches
« on: Saturday 20 April 24 16:06 BST (UK) »
For many many years one of my worst brick walls is still standing.
My great-great grandmother, Mary Ann Lounce (her spelling, most likely it should have been Lownds or Lowndes was b. ca 1826 in either Mobberley or Knutsford, Cheshire (1851 census, 1861 census). Through a lot of diligent research I have discovered her mother was Hannah Lownds who married Matthew Irving (later morphed into Irvin, Hervin) in 1827 at Manchester Cathedral.
I have not found a suitable baptism for Mary Ann, nor a possible first marriage for Hannah, and it has been hard to find a baptism under Lownds for Hannah as she has various birth years, but I think she was likely born around 1805. 1841 gives out of county (they were in Huddersfield by that point) and 1851 is very messed up, from my examination of the household, I think there are several mistakes, with Hannah's bp given as Wales. By that point Mary Ann has married Joseph Ford.
I was able to connect the family as after Mary Ann died (1862) my great-grandmother and her brothers lived with Mary Ann's brother (half-brother?) in Huddersfield.
Using my DNA matches I have found several matches to a Lowndes family in Staffordshire, around Burslem. I have four matches (technically 5 but two are mother and son) and my brother has one I do not have to people who descend from John Lowndes and Hannah Colclough (also appears as Coldough?), through two of their sons - two of the matches have dates that don't agree, so I need to look into that.
The matches range from 7-8 cM to me or my brother.
Does this seem feasible? I have looked at the matches other lines, and none even come close to my areas of ancestors (mainly E. Sussex, Lancashire, and Yorkshire). The Lownds' line is my only connection to Cheshire and I have nothing back 7 generations or so in my other lines that touch on Staffordshire.
Looking at the map I can see how a Lowndes/Lownds might have easily ended up around Mobberley from Staffordshire, not that far really.
Any thoughts or opinions appreciated!
My great-great grandmother, Mary Ann Lounce (her spelling, most likely it should have been Lownds or Lowndes was b. ca 1826 in either Mobberley or Knutsford, Cheshire (1851 census, 1861 census). Through a lot of diligent research I have discovered her mother was Hannah Lownds who married Matthew Irving (later morphed into Irvin, Hervin) in 1827 at Manchester Cathedral.
I have not found a suitable baptism for Mary Ann, nor a possible first marriage for Hannah, and it has been hard to find a baptism under Lownds for Hannah as she has various birth years, but I think she was likely born around 1805. 1841 gives out of county (they were in Huddersfield by that point) and 1851 is very messed up, from my examination of the household, I think there are several mistakes, with Hannah's bp given as Wales. By that point Mary Ann has married Joseph Ford.
I was able to connect the family as after Mary Ann died (1862) my great-grandmother and her brothers lived with Mary Ann's brother (half-brother?) in Huddersfield.
Using my DNA matches I have found several matches to a Lowndes family in Staffordshire, around Burslem. I have four matches (technically 5 but two are mother and son) and my brother has one I do not have to people who descend from John Lowndes and Hannah Colclough (also appears as Coldough?), through two of their sons - two of the matches have dates that don't agree, so I need to look into that.
The matches range from 7-8 cM to me or my brother.
Does this seem feasible? I have looked at the matches other lines, and none even come close to my areas of ancestors (mainly E. Sussex, Lancashire, and Yorkshire). The Lownds' line is my only connection to Cheshire and I have nothing back 7 generations or so in my other lines that touch on Staffordshire.
Looking at the map I can see how a Lowndes/Lownds might have easily ended up around Mobberley from Staffordshire, not that far really.
Any thoughts or opinions appreciated!