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Nottinghamshire / Dale's Row, Radford
« on: Thursday 09 June 22 17:34 BST (UK)  »
Hello there,

Does anyone please know exactly where this street was?
One of my 3x great uncles Samuel Pennington was baptised on the 10th of August 1883 at St Peter's Church in Radford. For the residence of his father at the time, FreeReg gives it as "7, Dale's Row."

Was it anywhere near to Player Street?

Any information would be gratefully accepted. :)

Thank you.  :) ;)

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London and Middlesex / Wynne Bros Warehouse, 14 and 16 Goswell Road, London
« on: Thursday 06 January 22 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hello There,

I have looked at the 1921 Census today and found my great grandma Edith Emily Spooner, at 1, Crescent Road, Tottenham, then a few weeks short of her 18th birthday.

She was a Clerk in this Census, and for her employer from the transcription it is transcribed. -
Wynne Bros Warehouse 14 & 16 Gaswell Rd E C1 Eng.

I think this may likely be Goswell Road instead of Gaswell.

Does anybody please know what this firm did or have any information about it?

Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)

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Kincardineshire / Hillhead of "Crosley(?)" in the parish of Fetteresso
« on: Friday 22 October 21 13:19 BST (UK)  »
Hello there,

Does anyone know where this place is/was please?

My 4x great grandad John Lamond (named "Lamont" on the '51 census), was at this address during the 1851 Census.

He was there with wife Christian/Christina, and children William, Margaret, Mary, John and Ellen. His other children not in the home during this census were Ann and James.


His daughter Margaret, my 3x great married George Sector at Fetteresso on the 23rd of April 1857. For Margaret's residence at the the time of marriage it is written "Crofkey/Crosley" (it's hard to read which), in Fetteresso.


Ann, the daughter of John Lamond, married William Lawrie at Maryculter on the 11th of February 1858. The residence at the time of marriage for Ann, from Scotlandspeople website, was also Crofkey/Crosley.

John Lamond was living at Cookney by the time of the 1861 Census.

Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much. :) ;)

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London and Middlesex / The Location of Edward Place In Bethnal Green
« on: Tuesday 07 September 21 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello there,

My 3x great grandad Alfred Sharp was born on the 17th of December 1839, at 2, Edward Place.
The birth certificate states that this was in the district of St Matthew, Bethnal Green. The Registrar's District was written as Hackney Road.

He was a son of Frederick Sharp and his wife Sarah (maiden surname Morris).
Alfred was baptised at St Leonard's, Shoreditch on the 10th of January 1841. -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM7N-TQ1

At the time of the 1841 census he was at Ann's Place in Bethnal Green. -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQVH-Q7J?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=GW1V-KX3

He was at 4, Church Terrace, Tottenham in the 1851 census. This census gives his birth place as "Bethnal Green."

I can't seem to find him in the 1861 or 1871 Census.

Alfred married Sarah Ann Butcher on the 12th of May 1873.
He died at 24, Hardwicke Road, New Southgate, on the 5th of April 1917.

All the rest of the census returns I can find for Alfred give his birth place as Shoreditch.

Does anybody please have any idea where Edward Place is/was exactly please?

Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)


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London and Middlesex / The Location of Foster Terrace, Kentish Town
« on: Sunday 11 April 21 12:45 BST (UK)  »
Hello there,

Does anyone know what this above street is called now please?

In the 1861 census, one of my 5x great aunts Catherine Spooner, was living at 2, Foster(or it may have been "Fosters") Terrace West, in Kentish Town. -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/8767/images/MDXRG9_122_124-0502?pId=5026652

But I can't seem to find this on current maps.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)

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Lincolnshire / The Parents of William Gibson, born 1799 in Dunston
« on: Monday 01 March 21 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there,

This above person was one of my 4x great grandad's.

He married Sarah Gash at Branston on the 19th of November 1822.
When he married, William was "of Blankney." The actual date of marriage comes from Findmypast. His residence at marriage comes from Freereg. Sarah Gash was of Branston at marriage. They were both single. -

Branston : All Saints : Register of unspecified type : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5ef1a816f493fd4d277709fb : viewed 1 Mar 2021) marriage William Gibson to Sarah Gash 1822

Soon after marriage, they went to live in Waddington.
Daughter Eliza Gibson was baptised there in September 1823.
They then had children: William, Ann, Sarah, Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth "Betsy", Charlotte, Emma and John all baptised at Waddington between 1825 - 1844.

Their daughter Margaret was buried in 1833 at Waddington.

In the 1851 census, William was listed as aged 51, an Agricultural Labourer and his birth place put as "Dunston." With wife Sarah. And children: Eliza (then wife of George Bottomley), Ann (then wife of Robert Golland/ Gollands), Mary, Elizabeth (baptised as "Betsey"), Charlotte, Emma and John. Sarah Ann Bottomley, his granddaughter was also in the home. -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGN7-5BK

William died at Waddington, on the 4th of January 1859. This date comes from page 5 of the Lincolnshire Chronicle, 7th of January 1859. His age on the GRO death index, his obituary, and also burial on the 6th of January 1859 all give him an estimated age at death as being 61.

The only baptism I can find which comes any where near close at all to Dunston, and matches his age and place of birth in the 1851 census is the 20th of October 1799 at Blankney, a son of a William and Sarah Gibson. -

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FBLANKNEY_PAR_1_3%2F0653&parentid=GBPRS%2FLINCS%2FBAP%2F00190000

There was also a John Gibson son of a William and Sarah, baptised there on the 21st of July 1798.

I estimate the parents of William to have been William Gibson and Sarah Stott, who were married at Blankney on the 10th of May 1798. This William was "of Dunston" on the register. -

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58180214e93790eb7f070594?search_id=5a1dbd5133045b746cee0ac1&ucf=false

This William Gibson, married in 1798 at Blankney, was buried at Dunston, aged 50, on the 12th of August 1827.

His wife Sarah was still alive at the time of the 1841 census, listed as a widow and living at Dunston.
She was buried at Dunston on the 5th of September 1848.


But the problem I have with William Gibson and Sarah Stott who married in 1798 at Blankney as being parents of my William Gibson, baptised in 1799 at Blankney is this:

There was a "William, son of William & Sarah Gibson" baptised at Dunston on the 10th of February 1805. And he was probably the same "William, son of William & Sarah Gibson," buried there on the 2nd of April 1805.-


So it would seem strange to me if this couple had two children born named William Gibson, baptised 6 years apart from each other, and one baptised while the other was still alive.

But regarding alternative parents for William Gibson born in 1799, I am starting to scratch my head quite a bit. I can't find a burial for a William Gibson in the area between 1799 - 1804 either.



If anyone has any information whatsoever it will be gratefully appreciated.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)




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London and Middlesex / The location of Cumberland Street In Shoreditch
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 19:05 BST (UK)  »
Hello There,

Does anyone please know exactly where this street is/ was?


It was the Street put down for one of my 5x great grandad's, William Marsden when he was buried in 1835, at St Leonard's Church.

Much obliged.

Thank you.  :) ;)

Thank

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Somerset / The Marriage of Thomas Burrough/ Burrows To Jane England In 1845
« on: Saturday 02 May 20 11:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello There,

I am trying to find the above marriage of these people or at least the original parish register of it.
According to "England Marriages" this marriage took place at South Petherton, Somerset, on the 9th of February 1845.

But I'm really not certain that this marriage did take place at South Petherton.
I have found the register of the banns on Ancestry:

"Thomas Burrow, a Bachelor, a Sojourner in this parish, and Jane England, a Spinster in this parish." The Banns were read on three Sundays from the 26th of January 1845. -
" Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914 for Jane England." -
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/60858/42886_1831115184_0926-00174/903400833?backurl=https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/108837364/person/420183010268/facts

But when I look in the marriage register on Ancestry to find a record of the marriage it cannot be found/ at least I can't see it anyway:
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60858/42886_1831109388_0565-00031?pid=2474858&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid%3D60858%26h%3D2474858%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D60857&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.4372279.509753000.1588107010-1910680500.1578225970#?imageId=42886_1831109331_0880-00061

I also tried to find the marriage on the GRO index under Civil Registrations. But I can't find it there either. The only Thomas Burrow/ Burrough that I can find getting married to a Jane in 1845, is one that married a Jane Bastyn/Bastin in the Honiton Registration district.

For Jane, the wife of Thomas her birth year at least in most census returns was put down as being around the year 1825, all apart from one in 1871, when her birth year was put down as 1833. In all of the returns, her place of birth was put down as being "Lopen, Somerset."
Now I originally thought this Jane may have been baptised in 1822, an illegitimate daughter of Hannah England. But then I found on Freereg a burial at Lopen for a 1 year old Jane England in 1823.
I then thought she may have been the Jane baptised at Lopen in 1827, to a Matthew and Elizabeth. But I found her unmarried in the 1851 Census, I think at Lopen/ South Petherton, and her brother Thomas was with her.
I could also dismiss the Jane England baptised 1819 in Lopen, because I found her unmarried with her father in the 1851 Census.
So I am coming round to the idea she may have been born illegitimate.

Their oldest daughter, Elizabeth (sometimes later named Elizabeth Mary/ Mary Elizabeth), my 3x great grandma, was born at Chard according to all census returns, in 1845. But I can't seem to find a baptism or registration for her birth.
The family were living at Crewkerne in the 1851 and 61 Census returns. Elizabeth had younger siblings Edwin, Gilbert, and Benjamin.
Elizabeth married Edwin Thomas Ebdon, on the 16th of July 1866 at Sidbury. Her father was living at Sidford by the 1871 census. Jane died in 1888 at Sidford, and Thomas died there in 1892.

If anyone has any information relating to the above, this would be very gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)

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Armed Forces / Henry Joy, discharged 25/06/1812 From The Light Dragoons
« on: Sunday 12 January 20 10:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello There,

There seems to be, in the original documents relating to this person, conflicting information about the age of him.
The original image is on Find My Past (This is the transcript which can take you to the original):
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBM%2FWO119%2F41704

It starts off with this Henry Joy (if it is indeed the same one) being discharged from the 82nd Regiment of Foot at Cork, on the 10th of June 1807.
He was discharged unfit for service at Cork, and was taken to (?) Kilmainham Hospital.
The Surgeons Certificate stated:
"Henry Joy of the 82nd Regiment has been affected for the last eleven months with swelled legs(?next part hard to read then I think it mentions something about a fever)."
In very small writing on the same page Henry stated that he had "received his pay up until the 24th of June."

The description on the first page describes him as:
5 feet 7 and 3 quarter inches tall. A Flax Dresser. Born in Bridport, Dorset.

If you fast forward the 3rd page in the image there is (a?) Henry Joy being discharged from the 11th Regiment of Light Dragoons at Dorchester. It is dated the 24th of June 1812.
He only served 273 days up to that point with the Dragoons.
The reason for him being discharged was because of "Dropsy." If I am not mistaken this could also be another name for swelling.

It states he was born "in the parish of Netherbury in or near the town of Bridport." It states he was 5 feet 8. This is only quarter of an inch off 5 feet 7 and 3 quarters. And he and was also a Flax Dresser.

There is a note at the bottom of the discharge page from the 11th Light Dragoons which states:
"Henry Joy served 2 years in the (?) Militia and was admitted a pensioner (?) at Kilmainham Hospital with (?) 82nd Foot on the 24th of June 1807."

The same page shows his service history:
Artillery Drivers - 1 October 1800 - 17th Nov 1801. What is "Artillery Drivers" please?
It is hard to read in what corps he was put down from the discharge in 1807, you can only read the last part of it. But it does look like "Artillery" to me, or the last part of that word. It states 12 years with "Artillery" on his discharge page from 1807. But surely (please see below) this must mean 12 months instead?
Then from 16th Dec - 24th June (when he was made a pensioner at Kilmainham Hospital) he was in the 82nd Regiment of Foot.
The discharge service history on the first page from 1807, does also seem to state that he served two years in the militia.
He was with the 11th Regiment of Light Dragoons from the 1st of July 1811 - 29th of March 1812.

Now I come to the real point of my topic:
Apart from a quarter of an inch difference in height from when he was discharged in 1807, the only difference at least which I can see is his age:

His age when he was discharged from 82nd Regiment of Foot on the 10th of June 1807 was  (or seems to have been put down as) 45 years.
But his age when Henry was discharged from the 11th Light Dragoons 0n the 24th of June 1812, was put down as being "about Twenty Seven." I do not have a clue what is going on here.
If he was about 27 in 1812, that means he would have been around 15 in 1800 when he joined the "Artillery Drivers."
But if he was 45 in 1807, that means he would have been around 50 in 1812.

Another thing I have a query about is his service history from Henry's discharge in 1812:

His total service history was put down as 3 years 147 days.

But in the section "In East or West Indies included in the foregoing total" it is written 14 years 273 days. Surely this must mean months?

Were the 11th Light Dragoons in the East/West Indies from July 1811 - March 1812? I thought they might have been in Spain during this time/ at least some of them?
Henry was in Captain Lutyen's Troop of 11th light Dragoons.

Any information relating to the above would be gratefully accepted.

Thank you very much.  :) ;)

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