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For Sale / Wanted / Events / New book, The Wreck of the Annie Jane.
« on: Thursday 14 December 17 07:20 GMT (UK)  »
The book was published two weeks ago, I am finally getting around to promoting it.

The Annie Jane was a newly built emigrant ship that sailed from Liverpool to Quebec in late 1853 with up to 450 people on board: Irish, Scottish and English emigrants. The ship turned back once to Liverpool after being dis-masted. The passengers tried to recover passage money through the courts, but could not get their money back; forcing many to reluctantly re-board the ship or starve in Liverpool.
 
Sailing again the ship was caught in a horrendous storm and wrecked in the Outer Hebrides on the tiny island of Vatersay on the 28th of September 1853. Up to 350 drowned and there were 102 survivors. The dead were buried in two mass graves “like herrings in a barrel”.
The survivors descended on the only house in the island looking for food and shelter, some of them being stuck there for two weeks. Then the difficult journey back to Liverpool to claim their passage money and 15 shillings expenses. One group being driven by another storm all the way to the Isle of Skye, where they had to wade rivers and walk mountain tracks to get to the nearest town Portree.

The book is a very detailed account of life aboard a mid-19th century ship. The first voyage and return. Then the final voyage, the disaster and aftermath, including the inquiry in Liverpool and a subsequent court case by a seaman for recovery of lost wages in Quebec. Also contains a vivid description of the social conditions on the Outer Hebrides at the time that led the impoverished islanders to loot the wreck and the bodies. Most of the surviving steerage passengers losing everything.
The book is well illustrated and includes a reproduction of the crew agreement, discharge document and the original adverts for passage aboard the Annie Jane.

I have attempted to put flesh on the bones of the immigrants who perished in the disaster and were then quickly forgotten. The location of the two mass graves of up to 350 people still unknown.


A great story and a fantastic present for anybody who is interested in History. There is an acknowledgement in the book to rootschat members who helped in the research.

Available at Amazon.uk

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wreck-Annie-Jane-Allan-Murray/dp/0861524128/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1513152718&sr=1-1&keywords=the+wreck+of+the+annie+jane

Or at the publisher, I have been told it’s a lot cheaper on this site for shipping to the USA and Canada.

http://www.acairbooks.com/categories/non-fiction-titles/all-non-fiction/the-wreck-of-the-annie-jane.aspx

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Useful Links / Annie Jane shipwreck of 1853, UPDATE!! with all new information.
« on: Saturday 09 December 17 16:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everybody

Just to bring you all up to date, the book is out now so the website has been updated to reflect that.
Thanks to all rootschat members who helped with this, given that we had very little or no information to start with; this has now grown into one of the most detailed passenger and crew list of any wooden mid 19th century sailing ship. Well done everybody but let’s try and make it better.
 Some information had been held back till publication for obvious reasons. Just so nobody can accuse me of flogging the book I am putting the direct links on this post. If you could all have a look at it again as all the crew details are there now and every scrap of information about the casualties and the survivors. If you know someone older who does not bother with the internet then take the list to them. The majority on the Annie Jane were Irish followed by Scottish then English. The lists are now alphabetical except the families have been kept in the same order as in the original list; they seem to run from the oldest (head of the family) to the youngest.

Steerage survivors
http://www.anniejane.net/steerage-survivors/ All but nine of the survivor’s origins have been found.

http://www.anniejane.net/steerage-passengers-drowned/ Thanks to a discovery be a rootschat member in Canada we were able to break the passengers up into family groups or if anyone was on a single ticket. The list now reflects that. Makes a lot more sense now.

http://www.anniejane.net/cabin-passengers-drowned/  We now know who every one of the first class passengers were.

http://www.anniejane.net/cabin-passenger-survivors/ Everyone found but the mysterious John Morgan, lots of hits on any search, surname very common. Was in Liverpool for the inquiry so may have been from there.

http://www.anniejane.net/crew-drowned/  We have all the crew who drowned now except for one; an unnamed apprentice. Name, age, location, register number, profession for all deceased crew members. No list ever existed as the names of the dead crew were not given or requested by the press at the time.

http://www.anniejane.net/crew-survivors/ Same again. we now have:  name, age, location, register number, profession for all crew members except one.

Just a brief synopsis for anyone who is unfamiliar with the story. The Annie Jane was a newly built emigrant ship that sailed from Liverpool to Quebec in late 1853 with about 450 people on board. She turned back once to Liverpool after being dismasted, about 80 passengers left although they could not get their money back. She sailed again and was wrecked in the Outer Hebrides on the tiny island of Vatersay on the 28th of September 1853. Up to 350 drowned and there were 102 survivors. The dead were buried in two mass graves “like herrings in a barrel”. The survivors descended on the only house in the island looking for food and shelter, some of them being stuck there for two weeks.
Sadly, the location of the graves has been lost. Vatersay is suffering from coastal erosion and an explosion of rabbits. I am hoping with the raised profile from the publication of the book to do something about that with the help of the local population.
Main site is http://www.anniejane.net/ There is a contact page to get in touch with me with any new information.

Thanks for your patience and a special thanks to all rootschat members for their help. Without you none of this would have been possible. Many of you working selflessly off site to find new information. The acknowledgement page in the book reflects that.
Allan

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Ireland / Seven missing Gibney's
« on: Friday 17 November 17 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Helllo there

I have posted a question on this family years ago, but just general as I had no idea of the area to concentrate on.
But I have just received this from a gentleman in America.
As a word of explanation I have been researching a shipwreck for the last three years and the book is about to come out, this information is to late for the book. But the website is remaining as a free resource www.anniejane.net This is my obsession to find all of the emigrants who perished aboard so I will keep updating the website as long as I live. The site of the graves two large pits where 350 bodies where thrown in has been lost. Once the book is published I will be focusing on raising funds to find the exact location of the remains.
The letter I have posted below.

Sir, I am very interested in information on this tragedy. I really appreciate what you and others are trying to accomplish. I noticed in one newspaper account that there were seven Gibneys that were feared lost in the disaster. There were four males and three females. Most if not all the names were commonly used first names in my family. I have been trying to discover my roots in Ireland for over sixty years. I have as a result much experience in this type of research. Due to family experiences much family history of my Gibney line had been lost. (house fires etc.) Last year with the release of new church records I was able to put together much family history from Ireland. One thing that I had relied on in previous study of the family history was the memories of my father’s first cousin Peter Gibney. He lived to be one hundred and lived with my Great Grand Parents Thomas and Ann Gibney until about the age of nine. He relayed to me that some of his Great Grandfather’s brothers and sisters may have died on ship on their way over to America. We have never been able to find any of them. The first question I would have is would any of the deceased been from County Dublin. It seems perhaps unlikely but is there anyway to find that out ? Particularly the group of 80+ who boarded late may have heard about the openings that happened as a result of the ships problems. There were seven Gibneys listed as lost. 1853 would have been about the time that they would have left Ireland.


 Lets see if we can find them. Head of the family probably oldest would have been: Martha then William, John, Robert, Margaret, Jane, Alexander. I have tended to find family's listed from youngest to oldest. Don't assume that is all; as infants sharing their parents berths tended not to be listed at all.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Allan


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Hello everybody

Hoping this will be helpful and of interest to someone who might be doing research into their family tree.
I am researching an emigrant ship that came to grief in 1853, http://www.anniejane.net/ she made an aborted first voyage and returned to Liverpool. A petition was presented to the Lord Mayor of Liverpool on the 5th of September, from the passengers demanding compensation and their money back; just recently managed to locate a copy but only a partial list of the signatories. So these are the names of some of the passengers who left the ship, without receiving compensation or their passage fare refunded.
We know about thirty of them went on the steamship Sarah Sands on the 15th of September, the rest of them may have taken the cheaper option of a sailing ship or decided to wait for spring; but they did have jobs waiting for them on the Quebec railway infrastructure.
It looks like they were mainly Scottish and English tradesman. I have removed from the list all the signatories who went on the second voyage, many of them perishing in the shipwreck.
Surnames seemed to have been more fluid at that time, some of them seem suspect.
I am not really looking for any feedback from this post, just hoping it may be of some use. After all the wonderful help I have received from roots chat Canadians with this project; I feel its the least I can do

Best regards Allan

Jane Tenlin
Charles Tenlin
Michael Tenlin
James Tenlin
David Thomas
Daniel Thomas
Henry Thomas
William Thomas
Thomas Thomas
George King
John Stobie
Edward Chainhen
Dennis Disrael
Jeramiah Porter
David Divisers
Edward Mockluyer
William Owen
William Davies
David Davies
Thomas Hodges
Thomas Hawkins
Alexander Kerr
John Curr
Thomas Gourlie
Dennis Driscon
Michael Lane
James Driver
Thomas Campbell
Lawrence Campbell
David Gunn
John Storry
David Jones
Rees Williams
Samuel Elliot
Shem Richards
Benjamin Powhes
Andrew Anderson
Thomas Young
John Scott Chalmers
John Treadwell
Fredrick Treadwell
Thomas Johns
William Gallatly
John Taylor
George Taylor
Henry Bayly
John Stranger
William Brown

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Antrim / Ten Townsley's from Belfast shipwrecked
« on: Tuesday 14 June 16 20:32 BST (UK)  »
Hello there

Looking for ages,origins of a group that was on the Annie Jane shipwreck, Townsley or Townley its spelt both ways. We have recently established they were one family group in a booking of ten berths; one survivor John the rest were:
Ann T Townsley
James Townsley
Mary Townsley
William Townsley
Robert Townsley
Joseph Townsley
Elizabeth Townsley
Andrew Townsley
Eliza Townsley

Just found out they were originally from Belfast.

Any help greatly appreciated.


Regards Allan

website is http://www.anniejane.net/


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Cork / Julia Macarthy of Crookhaven, Annie Jane shipwreck survivor
« on: Tuesday 14 June 16 18:40 BST (UK)  »
Hello everybody

I had a mission impossible up to now, trying to find a Julia Macarthy from Ireland no age no location.
She was a mother of twins; four months old, boys I think, and she lost one in the shipwreck, the other survived, Described as on the way to join her husband in America, that was all we had to go on.
Would love to give the lost child the dignity of a name and the survivor of course.
Now we have discovered she was from Crookhaven, its described as her place of nativity in a newspaper article in 1853.
So looking for someone local who can help and access baptism records for the time period April to July of 1853 for the area around Crookhaven.
Its beginning to look like a lot of the Annie Jane survivors never tried again and who could blame them, so she may have gone home after the shipwreck , never to leave.

Website is http://www.anniejane.net/

There were another 4 McCarthy's aboard the ship  who were lost in the tragedy: Timothy, Katherine and two Margaret's, a high possibility now that some might come from the same area, I would say that it is highly unlikely she would have been traveling alone with such young children.

Any help greatly appreciated
Thanks for reading, Allan

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Cork / Timothy O'Donovan Annie Jane ship wreck survivor
« on: Wednesday 09 March 16 18:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everybody

I am researching this shipwreck in 1853 http://www.anniejane.net/

Three survivors definitely from Cork
I am looking for origins of George and John Kingston there was also another Kingston lost, Peggy relationship unknown.

The other and most important one is Timothy O'Donovan, yesterday I found an article which I will try and attach, which has him alive in West Cork in 1902. He was traveling in a party of two with Micheal Donovan who was lost in the shipwreck, do not know if he was a brother, but very probably.

Lots more of the casualties were probably from Cork so if you could check the list for steerage passengers lost, against your family tree

Thanks for any help

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Hello everybody

Just been given the names of five seamen who were lost on the Annie Jane in 1853 from their names you would deduce they were French speaking Canadians.

Audel Drapean
Samuel Langlas
Napolean Mercar
Amable Moan
Joseph Tallat

It would be good if I could get their origins ages etc.

Also another two who's names I had previously Uhalt Gagnon and Edward Durant both carpenters.

Is their a French language genealogy site in Canada? I am afraid I am handicapped in this field as my French is limited, non existent. But if you could point me in the right direction I will get some one to put a post on it.

Any help greatly appreciated as always.

Regards Allan  http://www.anniejane.net/

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Hello everybody

I need help, I am researching a shipwreck that happened in 1853. My attention has been drawn to a remarkable document, the personal account of the shipwreck by a Robert C Walter or Walters who was among a group of eleven orphans from four ragged schools in London who were aboard the Annie Jane, only two survived. Unfortunately Robert does not give any names of his companions. Here is his account http://books.google.ca/books?id=3rMEAAAAQAAJ&
At the end of his account he states that the other survivor had disappeared , but he actually was in a hospital in Liverpool for three months and then walked all the way from Liverpool to London arriving in a pitiable and wretched state, as you would.

Obviously I am looking for the names/origins/ages of the drowned boys and the other survivor, so I am looking for advice on where the records of the ragged schools are? And asking for some willing volunteer or volunteers to go and look at the records, if we can establish where they are likely to be.
Obviously I would love to do that myself but I could not live further from London if I tried, will not manage a trip till the middle of the year.
 Not only would we find the origin and ages of another 10 individuals but also establish the veracity of  the casualty list, which I have already had to make a lot of additions to. Considering we knew the origins or ages of hardly anybody at the beginning of this odyssey steady progress is being made.
http://www.anniejane.net/


There would have been 5 pupils from St Giles and St George, Bloomsbury
                                      2 from Kentish town, 14 Ferdinand place
                                      2 from Richmond St,  2 Maida Hill
                                      2 from Grotto passage, 2 high St Marylebone
We know Robert was in Bloomsbury school eventually emigrating to Australia in early 1854.
The other survivor returned in January and was re-admitted to Richmond St, he eventually emigrated as well
There was eight in the first group, they traveled from London on the 19th of august 1853, after the first voyage three of the boys at first refused to go back on the ship so another three were sent they would have traveled from London just prior to the 9th of September which is when the ship left Liverpool for her final voyage. Sadly the other three changed their minds making the total number in the party 11


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards Allan

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