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I was hoping for some help and any advice will be appreciated. My 3x Great Grandfather, Brabazon Disney Shiel dies 20 January 1855 in Blackrock, Dundalk, Louth. The only information I could find was a vague line in a Belfast newspaper. However when I ran his name of FindMyPast-Uk an entry comes up from the "Tipperary Clans Archive" advising B. Shiel 1855, January 20, Blackrock, Dundalk, Louth-Parish Burial.
My question is can I get access on-line to this Tipperary clans Archive to see if it provides where he was buried or any other information about his passing?

Thank you in advance from chilly Canada

I have done extensive research on my Graham ancestors. Two brothers (including my 2xGG) married 2 sisters. Thomas (2xGG) married Elizabeth Martin. Robert married Martha Martin. Their father was Andrew. After the sister's Father died, their Mother and 4 brothers left Ireland for America. I have finished with that part of my tree.

I followed Robert Graham and Martha as they left Monaghan for Belfast and had great success with that part of the tree.

My frustration is with my 2xGG Thomas and Elizabeth. They married in 1842 and had a son in 1843 while living in Tullygoney and then I find them in Rafeenan where they had more children and stayed living in Rafeenan until their deaths, Thomas is 1882 and Elizabeth in 1892.

On Griffiths valuation both for Tullygoney and Rafeenan I found a Thomas and Robert renting a house with no land for 5 shillings.  It appears they were "labourers" and assume very poor. Robert leave for Belfast in the 1870's, my Thomas stays all his life there with his wife Elizabeth.

All around them either in Drumcoo Jackson, Killycreen there are Grahams who did have land and as the years went by, did very well in farming, breeding cattle etc. The ones that passed away in the early 1900's I found obituaries where everyone is listed who attended, but not my Thomas Graham.

My question is could they have been related and just worked on a brother's farm as labour, therefore didn't need land just a house to live in? Could they have not been related even though there are so many Grahams living all around them? Is there anything else I can do to try and link all these Grahams? I have just done areas close to Tullygoney and Rafeenan where other Grahams lived. Drumcoo Jackson, Killycreen. I also looked at the custom of naming children.

They stayed all their lives in the Rafeenan area as well their oldest son Robert and a daughter who had a son Richard out of wedlock and was living on Drumbin Road up to 1940 when she passed.

I have done Tithe's Applotment, Griffiths, census, newspaper articles, church records for the children's baptisms and just would really like to find something out about them before giving up. I hope they weren't so poor that they couldn't even have a small patch of land to grow food for themselves.

I am curious about opinions or other options to check out and any help would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

I am trying to help an elderly gentleman with his research. He is looking to find any information on his Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother.

Possible name of Roland or Rowland Adamson who was a printer, born in Canada with Scottish roots. His Great Grandmother was Jemima Rodgers or Rogers who was born around 1849 in Dalkeith, Scotland. Not sure if they married or were in fact married in Canada. They moved to New York around 1875. Their son was Daniel Patterson Adamson born 11 November 1875.Can't find US marriage but  I found a census record for 1880 showing Daniel at 4 years of age living with other children a Nursery and Children's hospital in Middletown, Co. Richmond, NY. Not sure what happened to the parents but any information or advice on where to look will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks very much,
Susan

I am trying to learn who actually "owned" the land for the Town lands of Rafeenan and Tullygony in the Parish of Tydavnet.  On Griffiths for Rafeenan, Charlotte Johnston is listed as immediate lessor and for Tullygony the name Henry Greer. I have done all I can researching my Grahams at my level of knowledge and luck, but I'm hoping to find out who the "big land owner" was and hope that maybe the estate records for that person might offer up a wee bit more information on my Grahams. What word did they do on the estate, rent paid etc.

My 2x GG and one of his sons and daughter stayed all their lives in Rafeenan and area up until 1943, so my last hope before giving up is to see if any information was written down in the estate records,  and then try to find where the last spot where they were living in the 1930s early 1940s. All I have on the death records is the address of is Drumbin Road, Monaghan. Can't find a Drumbin Road, but maybe long gone being in the country.

Any help before I have to call it a day with my Graham ancestors is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers from Canada

I am scratching my head trying to understand why has happened regarding 2 girls born to same Mother but 4 months apart!!!!

I found these records on irishgenealogy.ie and both births are registered.

1. Elizabeth Joss
born 02 February 1889
8 Valentine St. Belfast
Father: Alexander Joss and Mother: Sara (Strain)
Birth registered 23 Feb 1889 to John Barron - ID#9244501
These are my ancestors 100%

2. Jane Joss
born 04 June 1889
no address but says (lying in hospital bed) Father from Scotland which is true
Father: Alexander Joss Mother: Sara Strain
Birth registered 17 August 1889 to John Johnston (Informant A. Clegg occupier at hospital)

I checked the dates for all the other births to see if 1889 was a typo, but they all say 1889.

I don't think they were twins, because I can't see how in those days one could be born without the other one, so I am completely stumped!!!!

Can anyone offer any suggestions.  Later on down the road one girl had a child out of wed-lock and the other married and had several children.

Any ideas will greatly be appreciated as I'm so confused!!!!

Sincerely,
Confused Canadian!!!