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The Common Room / No Death Registration on GRO or the Irish equivalent in 1912
« on: Sunday 02 July 17 22:07 BST (UK) »
Hi, I hope someone can advise me on this.
Briefly. I've traced my great uncle Albert Edward Chaplin bn 10 Mar 1888 Redhill through to his time with the Royal Engineers (he enlisted in Aldershot 27/9/1902) through to his discharge 14/4/1912. His online army records state that he attempted suicide 19th Jan 1912 at Ashtown Lodge, Castleknock on 19th Jan 1912.
He was subsequently discharged from the army on 14 Apr 1912 as unfit for further service. At some point between his suicide attempt and discharge he was committed to Richmond Lunatic Asylum in Dublin where he died (I think on 19th May the same year). I'm not sure if this was due to injuries resulting from the original attempt of if there was a second suicide attempt.
I have discovered that the asylum records for that period are still intact and can be sourced and I've been in contact with the National Archive of Ireland. However the Freedom of Information act requires me to satisfy several conditions, all of which I can do EXCEPT that of submitting his death certificate - but I just can't find one!
I've checked the GRO indexers, Ance*try, Family Search, FindMyP*st, Irish Genealogy etc but with no joy. This is deeply frustrating as I'm so near to being able to discover more about the circumstances of his commital, treatment and death plus details of where he was buried, yet unable to access them because I cannot obtain his death registration.
Can anyone suggest why this might be. He was English and had been serving in the British Army in Limerick/Cork - which I'm sure was part of Grt Britain at the time. Could it be that as he'd been discharged, the army no longer had responsibility for him but if that's so who would then be responsible for registering the death. My grandfather was his named next of kin but there is nothing in family papers to throw any light on this.
Can anyone help please?
Kind regards
Spence Chaplin
Briefly. I've traced my great uncle Albert Edward Chaplin bn 10 Mar 1888 Redhill through to his time with the Royal Engineers (he enlisted in Aldershot 27/9/1902) through to his discharge 14/4/1912. His online army records state that he attempted suicide 19th Jan 1912 at Ashtown Lodge, Castleknock on 19th Jan 1912.
He was subsequently discharged from the army on 14 Apr 1912 as unfit for further service. At some point between his suicide attempt and discharge he was committed to Richmond Lunatic Asylum in Dublin where he died (I think on 19th May the same year). I'm not sure if this was due to injuries resulting from the original attempt of if there was a second suicide attempt.
I have discovered that the asylum records for that period are still intact and can be sourced and I've been in contact with the National Archive of Ireland. However the Freedom of Information act requires me to satisfy several conditions, all of which I can do EXCEPT that of submitting his death certificate - but I just can't find one!
I've checked the GRO indexers, Ance*try, Family Search, FindMyP*st, Irish Genealogy etc but with no joy. This is deeply frustrating as I'm so near to being able to discover more about the circumstances of his commital, treatment and death plus details of where he was buried, yet unable to access them because I cannot obtain his death registration.
Can anyone suggest why this might be. He was English and had been serving in the British Army in Limerick/Cork - which I'm sure was part of Grt Britain at the time. Could it be that as he'd been discharged, the army no longer had responsibility for him but if that's so who would then be responsible for registering the death. My grandfather was his named next of kin but there is nothing in family papers to throw any light on this.
Can anyone help please?
Kind regards
Spence Chaplin