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Europe / Italian Military Internees
« on: Thursday 27 April 17 21:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi there,

Trying a shout in the dark... any suggestions on researching Italian Military Internees? My husband and I just found out his grand Uncle (Giorgio F Raffaelli, b. 21 Nov 1927) was captured by the Nazis in Northern Italy (Fosicandora, Lucca, Toscana, Italia) and served in a camp. I'd love to find documentation.

Thank you for your time!
Caitlin
New Hampshire

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Galway / Melia/Burke (Annaghdown/Cortoon) & Crowe/Walsh (Turloughmore)
« on: Saturday 01 April 17 23:34 BST (UK)  »
Greetings!

My mother and I have spent decades attempting to trace my great-grandmother's origins further back in Co. Galway. We are always hoping for more information, so I thought, why not give it a shot. We have been home to Ireland many times, and have attempted to do genealogical research, but it can be difficult when you have limited time. Our cousins have been helpful in that they know much of the oral history, where the family homes were, and where people are buried (without headstones). I'd like to see what kind of paper trail we could muster up.

Here is the family:
William Melia (b. 26 Aug 1860, Cregg, Cortoon, Co. Galway; d. unknown), a farmer, married Ellen Crowe (b. 24 Dec 1864, Turloughmore, Co. Galway; d. unknown), who was literate
Their children:
Catherine Melia, b. abt 1890 in Cortoon; baptism was 19 Jan 1890, baptism name: Catherine Malley; died here in the States
Martin Joseph Melia, b. 10 Oct 1892, Cortoon; died here in the States, emigrated with Catherine
Nora Agnes Melia, b. 9 Oct 1983, Cregg, Cortoon; my great-grandmother, died in Massachusetts on 11 Dec 1977
Julia Melia, b. 1896, Cortoon; d. 17 Oct 1977, Cregg, Cortoon; m. a Kavanagh
John Melia, b. 13 Aug 1898, Cortoon; d. unknown; m. Mary Burke
Michael Melia, b. abt 1901; baptism was 9 Feb 1901 in Corandulla, baptism name: Michael Malley; d. unknown
Thomas Melia; b. abt 1903; d. unknown, after 1993, we believe and he was the last sibling living; m. Katherine Greany
Anthony Melia, b. 1905; baptism was 2 Sep 1905, baptism name was Anthony Mallia; d. unknown; m. Margaret O'Hara in 1933
Hubert Melia, b. 1908; baptism was 17 Sep 1908, baptism name was Hubert Mallia; d. unknown
Our cousins have told us that my grandfather was named for another son named Francis. We have not found a record of him.

William Melia's parents were William Melia, born about 1831 in Co. Galway, and Catherine Burke, born about 1836, died Sep 1903. We have found four children:
William Melia
Honora Melia, b. abt 1863; baptism in Corandulla 24 Jun 1863, baptism name Honora Mally; died here in the States
Michael Melia, b. abt 1866; baptism in Corandulla 7 Nov 1866, baptism name Michael Malley; d. unknown
John Melia, b. abt 1868; baptism in Corandulla 26 Nov 1868; d. unknown

Ellen Crowe's parents were Martin Crowe, born about 1841 in Co. Galway, (he died between the 1901 and 1911 Census; he was in Liscananaun, Clogher, Co. Galway in 1901), and Julia Walsh, born about 1848, and presumably passed on by the 1901 census. We have found five children:
Ellen Crowe
Anthony Crowe, b. 22 Sep 1873 in Turloughmore, Gal, Ireland; d. unknown
John Crowe, b. abt 1876, Lackagh, Gal; d. unknown
Margaret Crowe, b. abt 1883, Lackagh, Gal; d. unknown; married Thomas Joyce 11 May 1905 in Lackagh
Judy Mary Crowe, b. abt 1879, Lackagh, Gal.; d. unknown

And that is all we have of passed on relatives. It would be incredible if we could find the names of William & Catherine's parents, and Martin & Julia's parents. We know the records are scarce and often missing, so would appreciate any help that you all have to offer!

Best wishes,
Caitlin (& my mother, Kathleen)
New Hampshire




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Hello fellow researchers, this may be a bit long-winded, so I do apologize in advance.

I have been recently corresponding with a third cousin in regard to our 4-3x great-grandfather, William Houlder, Jr.

He was born 20 Jun, 1790 in Southwark, Surrey, to a William Houlder (1757-1807, glazier) and his wife, Sarah nee MacCulloch (1752-1826). He had two siblings, a brother and sister, who both died by 1791. William Jr inherited his father's glazing company, and appears to have held a stall at the Borough Market. The Houlder glaziers were commissioned to do work on the Surrey Sessions House and County Goal from 1803-1829.

William Jr. married an Elizabeth Ellis (b. ~1792 in Heathfield, Sussex) on 6 May 1813 at Saint Saviour, Southwark. The pair had seven children:
William Houlder (III) - b.1814, Southwark
Elizabeth Hannah Houlder - b.1818, Southwark
Henry Houlder - b.1819, Southwark
Sarah Ann Houlder - b.1822, Southwark
Alfred Houlder - b.1824, Southwark
Augustus Frederick Houlder - b.1826, Streatham, Surrey
Edwin Savory Houlder - b.1829, Streatham, Surrey

By the 1841 Census, William is listed as living in St. Mary Newington, Lambeth, Surrey:
Willm Houlder - 50 - Agent [occupation] - Y [born in county]
Elizth Houlder - 45 -          - No
Alfred - 15 - Y
Augus's - 14 - Y
Edwin - 12 - Y

Now, Edwin Savory Houlder and his brother Alfred Houlder, had a very successful shipping company called Houlder Brothers & Co. based in London. My cousin has a book entitled One Hundred Years of Houlders, which was written about 50 years after Edwin's death, but includes several pages about Edwin's life as the book is about the shipping company and the many people, and ships, involved. The 'real' mystery is in a short paragraph of the book:
"...Mr. Edwin Savory Houlder was born on the 19th December, 1828, and was the seventh child of William Houlder (born about 1780 this is off 10 years of my research). William Houlder is believed to have lived at Heathfield in Sussex (I have not found any records indicating this), and his wife was formerly a Miss Savory of Irish descent (this also does not match our research). William Houlder was a landowner and amused himself with hunting and sport. He spent much of his time in good living, and bad gambling, with the ultimate result that he eventually found circumstances far beyond his control. He thereupon settled the problem in a manner which was easiest for himself by sailing away abroad with what moveable property he could take, and nothing more was heard of him from that time. His wife was left with the responsible task of bringing up his family of seven children, aided only by her daughter Sarah Ann."

In attempting to research the validity of William Jr. having "sailed off", I have found the following record at Old Bailey Court: https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-614-18440205&div=t18440205-614&terms=William|Houlder#highlight

This William Houlder, a clerk/agent, was transported for 7 years to Tasmania for punishment after being found guilty of embezzlement. Records found in Tasmanian archives indicate that this William Houlder's origins were in St. Saviours, Southwark, that he was married with seven children. One of these record indicates that his wife's name is Elizabeth Walworth. I cannot find any marriage of a William Houlder and an Elizabeth Walworth during this time period, anywhere in the world.

Curiously, the 1851 Census (Surrey, Camberwall, St. George), shows the following:
Elizabeth Houlder - Head - Marr. - 56 - [blank occupation] - Heathfield, Sussex
Sarah A Do. - dau - single - 28 - Governess - Surrey [illegible]
Alfred Do. - son - single - 26 - Merchants Clerk - Do.
Edwin S. Do. - son - single - 22 - Do. - Surrey, Streatham

No William, though Elizabeth is married.

With all of that said, I can find nothing about William after 1841, until I found a William Houlder, who passed away at the Clapham Workhouse on 25 Mar 1856. He was buried in Norwood Cemetery, which leads me to believe this may be the same William as mine, as I am descended from his eldest son, who at the time lived [quite well of, I'll mention] at Norwood Green.

I would love to hear other genealogists thoughts, findings, etc. on this matter. Have I got the right William Houlder, glazier? Where does the Savory come in? Do you think it's possible the convict is also my William? Looking forward to discussion!  ;D

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1807 London Will - William Houlder
« on: Saturday 18 March 17 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hello there, fellow researchers!

I wonder if some of you, who have more practice in deciphering the older English cursive used for administrative purposes. I simply do not have enough practice of yet to make out all the bits and pieces.

It is quite long, so if someone would like to simply translate the names, connections, and items bequeathed, that would be wonderful!

Best wishes,
Caitlin
New Hampshire

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Antrim / Access to "Ireland Diocesan and Prerogative License and Bonds 1623-1866"?
« on: Wednesday 15 March 17 14:54 GMT (UK)  »
A friend over in the England board has suggested I ask if anyone has access to the "Ireland Diocesan and Prerogative Licence and Bonds 1623-1866" as their index shows an 1840 marriage for Edward Jennings to Margaret Jennings in the Diocese of Down, Connor & Dromore. The marriage bond/licence should yield some helpful information in my genealogy research.

Is there someone out there that can help?

Thank you,
Caitlin
New Hampshire, USA

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Hello there!

Hoping for some help in solving a mystery... my g-g-g-great-grandparents, Edward Jennings (b. abt 1811, St. Pancras, London), esq. of Chancery Lane and Margaret Jennings (b. abt 1811, also St. Pancras, London), daughter of a "late Mr. Jennings of Tonbridge-place" were married the 26th of March 1840 at St. George's, per The Belfast Newsletter.

I cannot find any other documentation, and could use it in discovering/confirming who their parents may be.

Thank you!
Caitlin
New Hampshire, USA

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