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New Zealand Completed Requests / BMD Registration numbers
« on: Thursday 15 September 22 11:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I often see NZ Birth, Death and Marriage registration numbers used as a rough indication of a date. For example, a marriage registration 1952/01927 is likely to be early in 1952, and death 1952/34893 likely to be late in 1952.

But there were, according to Statistics NZ, only 18897 deaths in NZ in 1952. So why the much higher registration number?

Does anyone know how these numbers work?

Slainte
Gordon

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Aberdeenshire / Duthie family, Tarves Parish
« on: Sunday 03 July 22 08:10 BST (UK)  »
And for a nice vague question ....

I'm looking for information about the Duthie family of Tarves. I can get BMD and census information for them, but they were obviously both community-minded and hard working.

William Duthie appears in newspapers throughout the first half of the 20th century running the Tarves Parish Council, Tarves Literary Society and lots else. Adam Duthie's name is still attached to a firm of accountants located on Duthie Road, although it seems the firm itself no longer exists.

Which Duthie is Duthie Rd named for?
When did that happen?
Are there detailed obituaries of any of he family?
etc.

I'm really looking at the social history of the area, rather than simple dates and names genealogy. Any and all leads gratefully received!

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Lanarkshire / Development of Glasgow city
« on: Saturday 04 December 21 00:25 GMT (UK)  »
My wife's family hail mainly from the Monkland coal-fields and adjacent areas, and before 1840-ish from Ireland.

We've become interested in how the smaller settlements such as Rutherglen, Blantyre, Ballieston and so on were absorbed into the city. So I've been looking for local government changes in the area, with little success so far.

Any ideas on finding, for example, maps of the city of Glasgow boundary changes over the last 150 - 200 years?

Many thanks

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Family missing from OPR
« on: Thursday 05 August 21 10:40 BST (UK)  »
I've been unable to find birth details for the children of a 3G-grandfather and -mother in Arbroath.

The parents:
 - Robert Smith (bapt 15 Sep 1814, Auchmithie; d. 26 Feb 1894, Arbroath).
 - Elizabeth Smith (that is her maiden name) bapt 25 Aug 1815, Arbroath; d. 9 Jan 1884, Arbroath). Commonly known as Betsy.

They were married 18 Dec 1835, in Arbroath.  I have copies of all these details from SP.

Census and death returns record these 8 children, with calculated years of birth. But with the exception of the last (Mary) I can find nothing more.

1: Jessie/Jessy cal 1837 (her death cert. records the parents; 1851 and 1861 census. She was probably with a relative in 1841: John and Jean Smith living in the same street.)
2: Charles cal 1838 (1841 census)
3: Jean cal 1840 (1841, 1851 census)
4: John cal 1841 (1851 census)
5: Thomas cal 1842 (1841, 1851 census)
6: William cal 1843 (1851, 1861 census
7: Betsy cal 1846 (1851, 1861 census)
8: Mary 30 Mar 1857. (1861, 1871, 1881 census)

[Initially I thought Mary was likely a granddaughter been brought up by grandparents.  But I do have the statutory registration of her birth, and Robert is recorded as her father; Betsy as her mother.]

None of the children appear in OPRs from anywhere in Angus. Conceivably the parents didn't bother with church registration at all.

Any advice about finding better birth dates?

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Missing marriage: Findlay-Jones about 1935
« on: Friday 04 June 21 07:59 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to find details of the husband of an aunt.

Jane or Jean Findlay was born in Scotland, 1908 and emigrated to Wellington in 1924. She was not good at paperwork!

She and her husband (that is how he was refered to anyway) Edward James Jones ("Ted") had a child (same name as his father) in cal. 1935. He died 5 Sep 1945, buried 7 Sep 1945 aged 61. (Some transcriptions have 7th as death date but that is wrong.}

A death notice appeared in the Evening Post newspaper, 6 Sep 1945. He was described as the "beloved husband of Jean Jones and father of Edward".

His death certificate is a thin document. There is no indication of a marriage, just the note "Not known whether a widow". There is a note of one male child, age unknown. Nor are his parents names recorded. The informant was the undertaker.

His age was given as 61, birthplace Hales or Wales. (There is a small village named  Hales in Norfolk.) So born cal. 1884. He had been in NZ 15 years.

The 1935 Supplementary Electoral Roll for Wellington South lists Jane as a spinster. In the 1938 roll she is married, surname Jones, same address as Edward Jones.

Jane (or Jean - either used at random) married William Joseph Burns in Melbourne, 1954. She called herself a spinster, with her birth surname of Findlay. That marriage registration does not mention her son, or previous marriage (if that is what it was).

She divorced Burns in 1963, but continued to use the surname Burns.

Her death certificate records her as married, and two husbands are listed: Edward James Jones married in Wellington, date omitted, and Burns as above. The "Number of children" is left blank.

I knew her, and she was regarded as the salt of the earth and a real family person, albeit a bit unlucky when her second husband turned out to be a crook.

From this mess I would like to locate the marriage between Jean and Edward. If, of course, it exists. I cannot locate such in the BMD records held by the Dept of Internal Affairs.

Any suggestions gratefully received!

Slainte
Gordon

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Air passenger lists?
« on: Saturday 06 March 21 09:36 GMT (UK)  »
Are there any sources of passengers arriving in NZ by air?

My father arrived in 1948 by flying boat from Sydney - how he got there I have no idea, but he started from a farm near Montrose, Scotland.

I am trying to establish whether his father accompanied him, or arrived separately around the same time.  Family Search has lists of arrivals, but that seems to be by ship only.

Slainte
Gordon

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Scotland / Migrant departures
« on: Friday 05 March 21 06:27 GMT (UK)  »
My Mother arrived in NZ on a Yugoslav government boat in January 1949. She joined the boat in Trieste, Italy. i have shipping documentation for that part of her trip, Trieste to Auckland.

[The boat was sent to Australia and NZ to repatriate Yugoslavs after the war and carried a small number of passengers to avoid travelling empty.]

She was from Arbroath, Angus. Apparently there was such a huge demand for passages from the UK that it was common for people to get themselves to the continent and join a ship there.

Is there anywhere I can look for her leaving Scotland, and/or arriving in Italy? [She does not appear in the departures lists on Find My Past.]

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Scotland / What is a "Domestic Servant"?
« on: Thursday 07 January 21 00:05 GMT (UK)  »
The greater part of my female ancestors 1800-1925 who have occupations recorded (usually before marriage) are reported as "Domestic Servant". The censuses for example are full of them.

I find it hard time believing that all of them were in paid employment, or even working for bed and board.

Might women who were still in the family home, and doing domestic work there, be recorded as "Domestic Servant"?

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Scotland / Confirmation of a Scottish will also 'sealed' in London
« on: Wednesday 12 August 20 08:32 BST (UK)  »
I've found records of a relative's estate.

He died on 7 Jan 1933; three executors were a lawyer, an accountant and a brother. He was reasonably well off: the 1933 value of the estate was Quid 66990, which is the equivalent of half a million pounds in 2020.

The first record shows the usual confirmation at Aberdeen, recorded in the Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories.

But that will is also recorded as 'sealed' in the Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. London, England.

Any idea why this Scottish will would be dealt with twice, in two different legal systems?

[I haven't seen the will - is there anywhere I might be able to, given that I am in NZ - a wee way from Aberdeen.]

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