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Hi, can anyone help with baptism/s or other docs in Bradford-on-Avon, c. 1787, for a Gay family, in relation to a Sarah Gay, whom two censuses (1861, 1871) said was born there?

A tree at FamilySearch may, possibly, suggest that she is the Sarah Gay baptised 8 June 1788 @ the Independent Chapel, Corsham – parents John & Betty Gay. However, Gay/Gaye/Gey etc is a common name in Wilts at the time, and while Corsham is close to Bradford, experience teaches me to be cautious.

One Census (1851) has her born "Bath, Somerset", which is where Sarah lived after marrying (i.) John Masling (1807) and (ii.) William Small (1821). (as far as I know) Those marriage records don't provide her parents' names.

I don't have access to wills/probate at the moment, but I'm told that Sarah is named as "niece" of Jasper Gay (or "Gey") of Bath, in his will dated 1838. (Some trees on Ancestry have her as Jasper's daughter which I believe is incorrect.)

In 1837, Sarah was widowed for a second time and in 1851 & 1861 she was living in Surrey with her daughter and son in law, Jane and Owen Bowen. In 1871, Sarah, a "laundress" was back in Bath, at the house of her younger son, John Small, "Coach Painter & Finisher".

Thank you  :)



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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 12:23 BST (UK)  »
There seems to be a consensus in several unreferenced trees out there that a Thomas Louch (sometimes Loutch, Lowch etc) was born somewhere in Berkshire about 1735 and was the son of Bryant (sometimes Briant) and Susanna (nee Culham).

His parents were married on 13 October 1734 at Besselsleigh. Christenings for six (or five) other children for this couple appear in the indexes at FamilySearch; the others were baptised at either Besselsleigh or Cumnor, between 1738 and 1756. However, Thomas does not seem to make an appearance in parish registers anywhere – until his marriage to Susanna Salisbury, on 9 November 1760, at St Andrew's Church, Headington.

Some trees suggest that Thomas was born and/or died at "Sandford" (logically, Dry Sandford or Sandford-on-Thames, although other trees suggest the lesser known, and less likely, Sanford in Sonning). Some give a date of 4 January 1735 (while others say 1 April – probably a transposition).

I would be grateful for any suggestions or references that anyone has at hand. Thank you.


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England / Two Elizabeths or one?
« on: Sunday 08 March 20 05:35 GMT (UK)  »
I hope I'm posting this in the right place; it's a somewhat unusual request – I'm interested in second opinions on whether the following are the same person:

(i.)  Elizabeth Coxell, born abt 1828, probably Herts/Essex ( https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coxell-27 ), one of my 3x great grandmothers, via her daughter Sarah Ann White, née Coxell/Coxall. (The christening/baptism and marriage records for Sarah suggest that she was illegitimate, i.e. her father is "reputed" to be a William Miles, of whom nothing else seems to be known.)

(ii.) Elizabeth Coxall, born abt 1825, in Bishop's Stortford, Herts (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Coxall-70 ) – the second wife of one of my 3x great grandfathers, James White (b. 1807, Little Hadham, Herts).

There are trees out there that suggest the two are one and the same person. However, "Elizabeth Coxell/Coxall" (along with other variants of the surname) was a fairly common name in the Essex/Herts region at the time – common enough to dissuade me from jumping to the conclusion that the two are one and the same.

(fwiw) An interesting implication, that will not be immediately obvious, is that if the two Elizabeths are the same person, James's second wife was also the mother of his daughter-law, Sarah Ann Coxell/Coxall (i.e. hypothetically making Elizabeth's son-in-law William also her stepson).

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Can anyone help out with further details of this baptism – such as the parents' names and date of birth? Edith Mary Wood, later Owen, was my great-great-grandmother.

There is circumstantial evidence that Edith's parents were Joseph Samuel Musgrave Wood (b. 19 February 1826 in Bramley) and Elizabeth (nee Lewis, born c. 1826 in Liverpool).

FamilySearch does not seem to have the baptism. Looks like it may be available through Ancestry and/or FindMyPast, but past experience also suggests that they may take my cash and provide nothing substantial in return.

It's seems likely that my GGGM is the Edith Mary Wood whose birth was registered at Hunslet, during the July-Sept. qtr of 1853, but I'd like to be more certain before I "jump through the hoops" set up by GRO. Thanks.

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