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Staffordshire / HARTWELL Daniel from Elford Born 1773 - error in records??
« on: Monday 08 March 21 20:29 GMT (UK)  »
I've posted about this before but a bit more research has thrown it all up in the air and now I'm really puzzled.

There are two Daniel Hartwells (Heartwell), one baptized in Harlaston in June 1816, son of John and Elizabeth and one baptized in Elford in September 1817, son of Daniel and Mary.  I had originally thought the Harlaston Daniel was mine, but there's a burial record in Harlaston for a Daniel Hartwell in June 1817 aged 11 months, which is before the second Daniel is born.  All of which leads me to conclude that it's Daniel, son of Daniel and Mary that's my ancestor.

Which brings me to my problem.  The only possible record I can see for Daniel senior is a child born in Elford in 1773.  BUT, there's a burial record mere weeks later for what looks like the same child.  There are banns for Daniel Hartwell and Mary Millington in 1814.

So I can't see Daniel senior being any other than the one born in 1773, which means the burial record can't be right.  Has anyone ever come across this before or do you have any other advice?

Thanks everyone!

Laura

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The Common Room / Apparently resurrected ancestor...
« on: Wednesday 13 November 19 21:06 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for some advice from someone who is more of an expert in this genealogy lark than I am and might be able to tell me what's going on in the parish record I'm looking at.

I am researching the Hartwell family who centred around Elford in Staffordshire.  I have a sinking feeling that I may have hung my research from the wrong sibling, there being two brothers (Daniel and John) having sons with the same name born within a year of each other.

My problem surrounds a Daniel Hartwell born around 1773.  There is a Daniel Hartwell in the 1841 census in Elford aged 65 and there's a death record in 1844 of a 70 year old Daniel Hartwell.  Taking into account the usual inaccuracies with age, I assume these are the same person.

In the parish record, there is a Daniel Hartwell born to Daniel and Mary in 1773.  Unfortunately, there is also a death of a Daniel Hartwell in 1773 and he's listed as "son of Daniel and Mary" so I'm assuming he's a child.

Could this be an error?  Elford had less that 500 people in it so it seems an unlikely error.  I considered that the 1773 Daniel could have died very young and his parents' next child was named after him but I can't see another Daniel in the records. 

Any help anyone can give would be enormously appreciated.

Laura

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Elford St Peter's Churchyard HARTWELL
« on: Saturday 10 November 18 17:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone,

I have done a lot of research into the Hartwell branch of my family from Elford but I'm struggling to fill in some of the death dates.  This is a big ask, but I was hoping someone could take a walk round the churchyard and send me the details of any Hartwells buried there.  I have been to the church quite a while ago and I'm sure I found two, but I just stumbled upon them so have no idea if there are any more.  It would be most helpful if you could send photos or transcripts of the headstones so I can get all the information off them, including "wife of" or "husband of" etc, which will help to tie them into my tree. 

Thanks in advance,

Laura

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Antrim / Need help with Thomas HENRY, Ballymoney
« on: Thursday 05 April 18 21:29 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Henry is my great-grandfather.  I have information from a reliable family source that he was born 6th September 1877 and died 3rd August 1963, which is backed up by the will calendar.  All the records I can find of him (censuses, street directories, etc) have him living at 39 Queen St, Ballymoney and working as a pork butcher.

Thomas married twice, once to Matilda Foster Clyde in Dec 1898 and then to Elizabeth Maybin/Mabin  in Nov 1918.

I found some school records which stated that he resided at Townhead St and his mother was a servant.

Now for the mystery I'm trying to solve.  Thomas was illegitimate.  The family maintain that his father acknowledged him but we have no information on who he was.  Based on some educated guesswork (middle names of Thomas's children and the like), i think it may have been a Thomas Lyle Henry,born in Finvoy in 1858.  Of g-grandad's mother, there is no trace. 

If anyone can tell me anything about this part of my family i would be so grateful.  Or even just some ideas of where to look.  I don't live in NI but I've been to GRONI and rooted through all their records and PRONI and now I'm completely stuck.  My mother adored him so it would be lovely to find something for her sake.

Thanks!

Laura

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