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Family History Beginners Board / Specific research info sought
« on: Tuesday 27 December 22 21:32 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies in advance. When I've asked questions here before, its usually asking for advice on how to find certain information myself but this time I'm asking if someone could do a look up for me.

I'm asking about my great great grandmother, Mary Ann Gavin ne้ Smith. She was born 18/11/1846 at Great Bradley in Suffolk. I've managed to track her life up to the 1891 census but I can't be sure what happened after that. Previous census entries show her growing up then working in her home village as a servant, then working in nearby Cambridge as a servant. She has an illegitimate son and then appears in Sheffield married to my GG grandfather Joseph Gavin (although no marriage details found).The family move to Salford and settle there.

I can't find either of them in the 1901 census but in the 1911 census I've found someone that I'm 75% sure is my GG grandmother. The entry is for a Mary Gavin, same age as my GGGM, married the same number of years, same number of children born, same number of children who have died. The only discrepancy in the place of birth which is listed as Duxford in Cambridgeshire. Thing is.... Duxford is only 12 miles away from Great Bradley where GGGM was born. I think that is a big coincidence with all the other details being identical. The 1911 census entry for GGGM was completed by the property owner (her employer) and I wonder if she has mentioned Duxford to him and he assumed she was born there. She may have worked in Duxford in between the census entries I have.

So would it be possible for someone here with better access to records try and ascertain if there really was a Mary Gavin born in Duxford in 1846? I know that Gavin is the persons married name which makes things more difficult but Duxford was a small village, probably around 200 population in 1846 so I can't imagine there were more than 20 births per year.

As a side question regarding the lack of marriage certificate, was it normal/accepted to live with someone and take their surname without actually getting married?

Thanks in advance

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Family History Beginners Board / Middle name conundrum (Scotland)
« on: Monday 17 May 21 15:31 BST (UK)  »
I'm doing some more research into my paternal tree. Unfortunately because my parents divorced when I was 3, I've got very little first hand information.

My grandmother was Margaret Ann Giverin nee Burns. I'm told she was known as Annie Giverin. However when I downloaded her birth entry from the Scotland's People site last week, I was surprised to see her recorded birth name as Margaret Allan Burns.

Her wedding record lists her as Annie Burns. The death entry for one of hers sons lists her as Margaret Ann Giverin. So perhaps just a transcription error on the birth record then? Well when you check for her death entry on Scotland's People, the record itself isn't available but the index lists her as Margaret Allan Giverin.

What I would love to know is.... Would Scottish Records Office have consulted her birth record and taken the Margaret Allan name from it when issuing her death certificate? I'm guessing not and I guess that Margaret Allan was her real name and she hated it so called herself Margaret Ann instead. As I said, I've got little first hand knowledge of my paternal side but I'm in email contact with a cousin (who I've never met) and she insists that out gran was always known as Margaret Ann or Annie.

Thanks.
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Family History Beginners Board / General advice- relative from Ireland
« on: Friday 01 May 20 16:07 BST (UK)  »
I've had an interesting time tracing my paternal line. My initial problem was that my great grandfather was a petty criminal who actually used one of his alias names when he got married. He ended his life under his real name but his descendants, including myself still have the alias as a surname.

It was a relief to get to the bottom of that mystery but I have a slight problem with his father, my great great grandfather. His name was Joseph Gavin (sometimes Gaven or Gavan) and I have him 100% identified on the 1881, 1891 and possibly the 1901 England census in Yorks and Lancs. He is listed as born in Ireland and a prison record narrows that down to Roscommon, Ireland. Now I have records of a Joseph Gavin born in Roscommon in 1839 who's age matches my gg grandfather and I have records of his father and mother and siblings in Ireland.

My problem is that I'm only 75% sure the Irish Joseph Gavin is the same as the on in English records but I really need to be 100% sure. How do I go about making certain that these two names are the same people? Were there immigration records from Ireland to UK in those days? I use Ancestry.co.uk most of the time. Is there a better, more appropriate source of information in this case? Thanks for your time.

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Armed Forces / Welch regiment, India post WW1
« on: Monday 08 July 19 20:07 BST (UK)  »
I've just received the military records of a distant relative. I was doing the research on behalf of his son who is 82 and lives in Canada.

His son was particularly interested in his fathers service in India. Unfortunately the records only confirm that he did serve in India with the Welch Regiment between August 1919 and March 1922. It doesn't state where in India he served. Wikipedia states that it was the 1st battalion of the Welch regiment who were in India at that time and indeed his records show that he was in the 1st battalion.

Does anyone know exactly where in India that the Welch Regiment was stationed between those dates? I'd be grateful and an old man would be very happy to find out more about his dad.

Thanks

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Armed Forces / Ship "H.T. Ixion"
« on: Monday 08 July 19 07:53 BST (UK)  »
I've just received the service records of a relative and one entry dated 9/8/1919 was "Embarked H.T. Ixion Liverpool". So he served in India with the Welch Regiment so this was obviously his ship out but its the H.T. bit that I'm wondering about. The SS Ixion was a merchant ship built in 1912 and sunk by U boat in 1941. I'm assuming that H.T. is an army designation and means Horse Transport. Am I barking up the wrong tree here?

Thanks.

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Family History Beginners Board / London building societies
« on: Saturday 20 April 19 13:58 BST (UK)  »
My mother in law passed away a couple of months ago and we have been sorting through her stuff. We found a photo album that no one had seen before and its so sad because we would have loved to know a bit more about her earlier life but its too late now.

There are a couple of photos of her working in an office with other girls around 1957. She lived in Battersea London and we had been told that she worked in a building society. There was a "congratulations on the birth of your son" card which had been signed by the girls at the WPBS. I'm sure that is the WP building society and the "P" is probably "Provident" but we would love to know who she actually worked for. He surviving sister seemed to think she worked for the Bayswater Building Society but that doesn't tie in with the "WPBS". Perhaps the branch was in Bayswater?

Does anyone know what WPBS was in the late 1950's?

Thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / The 1939 England and Wales register
« on: Thursday 18 April 19 16:03 BST (UK)  »
Am I right in thinking that if a relative is listed in the 1939 register and they were born in 1925, then that person must be dead?

Thanks

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Armed Forces / MOD search.... how long?
« on: Wednesday 27 February 19 09:25 GMT (UK)  »
I sent off the forms and cheque to the MOD for the military records of a relative a full month ago but I haven't heard anything and they haven't even cashed my cheque yet. I know the forms arrived there because I send them recorded delivery. Does it normally take this long? Thanks.

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Lancashire / Zinc Street, Salford
« on: Monday 28 January 19 19:45 GMT (UK)  »
I'm reading Robert Roberts excellent book "The Classic Slum" at the moment. The author's parents ran a shop in Zinc street and one of my relatives reckons that my great grandmother used to shop there. I was trying to figure out how close the shop was to where my great grandmother lived but Zinc street has now gone. Could someone please tell me where it was? I've been scouring old maps but I can't find it.

Thanks.

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