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Hi all,


I've had a look through existing posts on the Grant family in the Tomintoul and Kirkmichael area, but haven't seen anything that might help me out with my conundrum here. It stems from research relating to my previous post about the place name Gullergreen:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=841692.msg7080716#msg7080716

The Grants seemed to have used a great number of aliases; some more than others. My Grants appear to have used the alias Brown in the 1800s. I have not been able to track further back than that time period.

Does anyone recognise the Grant alias Brown?

It does not appear to be one of the more commonly-used aliases by the Grants, and I have had no luck so far tracing it in any of the genealogies or sites so far (admittedly, I have not gone through all of them in great depth).

The alias first appears in my research within baptism records from the Kirkmichael and Tomintoul area:

• 29th May 1813 Isabel, daughter to Peter Grant alias Brown by Isabel Grant his spouse
  (Although there are other Grants on the same page, none use the alias Brown)

• 6th July 1816 Grace, daughter to Peter Grant Brown Ballagan(?) by Isabel Grant his spouse.
  (Although there are other Grants on the same page, none use the alias Brown)

• 29th Sep 1819 Charles Grant, son of Peter Grant (Brown) in Gullergreen by Isobel Grant
  (Again, although there are other Grants on the same page, none use the alias Brown)

In 1870, in a death register from Tomintoul, Grace is listed as 'Grace Grant alias Brown', and her parents Peter Grant alias Brown and Isabella Grant nee Grant.

Later in 1890, New Pitsligo, Aberdeenshire, the death register for Charles Grant includes no mention to the alias Brown (although it seems that Isabella Grant's maiden name is McIntosh? A sometimes-used alias of the Grants...).

If anyone is familiar with this alias or knows of further resources I can sift through, that would be greatly appreciated.

Lastly, if it helps identify the relevant Grants, the Grant connection comes through an Isabella Grant who married a William Hutcheson in 1870. Her parents were Charles Grant (born 1819) and Mary McGregor (born to Alexander McGregor and Grace Cameron in 1820). I am stuck at Charles' father, Peter Grant alias Brown.


Many Thanks,


Ashley from Australia  

Hello! First-time poster here, was hoping to get some help with working out exactly who the Nobles in my family tree are.

I know they were originally from Fraserburgh/Broadsea. My great-grandmother was Mary Noble (b:1915), who came to Australia with her parents Joseph & Mary Noble from Fraserburgh. Here is the direct line as far as I've been able to work out (but correct me if I'm wrong!):

Joseph Noble (b:1868, Fraserburgh) - Mary Bella Hutcheson
Alexander Noble (b: 1846, Fraserburgh) - Ann Stephen
Andrew Noble (b: 1817, Fraserburgh) - Helen May
Alexander Noble (b:1775, Fraserburgh) - Mary Tait
... and here's where I've been getting a bit confused. I've seen conflicting connections on different family trees that I have seen on MyHeritage & Ancestry. I have limited expertise in navigating the older Scottish records/ resources as well.

I know that Alexander's (b:1775) father is also an Alexander Noble (& his mother: Christian Buchan). But which Alexander Noble is he? And who exactly is his father? I would love any help or suggestions that people could point me towards. His nickname seems to have been Alexander "Noch" Noble, which I know means 'little'. I have seen some people record Alexander "Noch" Noble's father as Alexander "Old Gunner" Noble (Mother - Elspet Ritchie). Other times I have seen his mother recorded as "Jean Noble" (and Old Gunner as her father) and his father as "James Gordon." Are there any distant relations on here that knows why this might be so? Or which sources of information I might be able to go to in order to work it out? I have seen some anecdotal discussion on Alexander "Noch" being an illegitimate child of Gordon's, but I have not been able to locate a source to confirm/deny this. Was there a particular tradition or practice in Scotland/ Aberdeen for illegitimate children that might be reflected in the records of c. 1700s?

With thanks to whoever takes the time to read this, Ashley from Melbourne, Australia.