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Australia / William ATCHINSON missing in Bendigo in 1863 onwards
« on: Thursday 31 March 11 16:02 BST (UK)  »
We have traced my X3g grandfather to Melbourne where he had a drapery business from 1859-1862. From announcements in the Melbourne Argus we find that he became insolvent.
His daughter Laura was born in Bendigo in 1863. That is the last we hear of him. His wife and children returned to England some time before 1871. They appear in the census at Billinghay, Lincolnshire.
Can anyone help us trace William Atchinson? There may be a reference in Betty Jackson's "Bendigo Advertiser Personal Notices 1854-80'. This is out of print. Does anyone have a copy that they could consult for us?
His death does not appear recorded in Victoria BDM records.

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Occupation Interests / "bracker" - is this a job, profession or a spelling mistake?
« on: Thursday 09 August 07 21:52 BST (UK)  »
A direct ancestor, Jonathan Parmley a lead miner, probably born in Garrigill, Alston in 1777, was married in Linton Parish Church in 1803 - (Grassington, Yorkshire).

The entry in the parish register starts;

August 16th - Jonathan Parmley (26) bracker & miner, & Suesanah Frankland (24)

I have been unable to find bracker as the name of any form of employment. However the word exists today as a surname. A surname derived from an occupation?

Can anyone suggest a meaning for bracker?

Thanks

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Jonathan Parmley of Linton (Hebden and Grassington)

We came across my ancestor, Jonathan Parmley in the 1803 Craven Muster Roll. (We believe this is him. Actually the name here is Jonathan Parmeby.) He is registered as living in  Hebden. He is a lead miner and a class one possible combatant (in the case of an invasion by Napoleon), as is mine agent Thomas Dickinson, who was a witness at his wedding. At the time Jonathan was the only person called Parmley in the area, we think.

In 1803 Jonathan married Susannah Frankland, the daughter of a local farmer.
In the register of St Michael’s Linton he is described as a “lead miner and bracker”. They had eight children in all, two of whom died. Their names were; Elizabeth, William, Thomas, Mary, Ann, Mary, Jonathan, Elizabeth. All were born in Grassington.

We knew that Susannah’s parents were Thomas and Mary Frankland. It seemed therefore that they might have been employing a custom of naming for their children; his father then hers for the boys; his mother then hers for the girls – even using Mary again when the first Mary died.

We could not trace Jonathan’s birth in 1777. He probably came from a lead mining area to Grassington.  The two areas where Parmleys were common in the 1841 census – were Alston and Middleton-in-Teesdale. We found the marriage of a William Parmely (sic) to Elizabeth Allison in 1764 in Alston, Cumberland. Using the naming custom, we worked on the hypothesis that these were Jonathan’s parents.

We looked through all the Parish Records of St Augustine’s Church in Alston and found no mention of Parmley baptisms in the years from 1767-1782. Next we tried the registers of St John’s church Carrigill, to the SSE of Alston. Here’s what we found;

July 1977
Jonathan, son of William Parmenly of Dryburn was baptized---6

September 1772
Anne daughter of William & Elizabeth Parmenly of Rodderup was baptized----11

We are fortunate, that for Ann’s birth, the mother’s name was also given. This was not common in this register.

We found a total of eleven “Parmenly” baptisms between 1750 and 1778.
The IGI records William’s baptism in January 1748   St John’s church. His father was Edmund Parmeley or Parmenly born about 1719  in Garrigill.

When we look at the map of this area, the Parmely habitations form almost an arc starting south of Alston and continuing to Leadgate and on to Carrigill following the course of the South Tyne; Annat Walls, Gill House, Ameshaugh, Howburn, Rotherhope (Rodderup), Slaggie Burn, Dryburn, Low Skydes, Red Wing, Cross Gill

This area covers the two churches of Alston, St Augustine’s  and Carrigill, St John’s . In the records of St John’s Carrigill in the 18th C, the name is usually spelled Parmenly, while in Alston it is usually Parmley. There are however two early 19th C marriages registered in Alston, where the name is recorded as Parmently


14 Oct 1809  Richard Parmently = Sarah Walton
29 Jun 1811  Thomas Parmently = Elizabeth Milbourn

There is an area 8-10 miles to the NNE of Alston which boasts a Parmently Hall and Parmently Cottage. Perhaps this is the origin of the name – Parmently- Parmenly- Parmley – (as well as Parmilly, Parmonly, Parmanly etc)

The vagaries of spelling are probably due to the various  clerks rather than anything else. It seems as though one may be recalling a connection with the area.

A visit to this area and the Parmley homeland (?) of Parmently is definitely due!
Does anyone know this area?


PS there is a really handy map of the area’s roads in the mid 18thC;
It covers Northumberland, Durham and nearby areas. Very useful. Thanks, Waggonways

Thanks to folk who have sent in transcriptions of Parmleys from this area from registers and gravestones. Sadly sometimes the names of the places are omitted from the original or the transcription. This information can be so helpful. It was so encouraging to see how close Dryburn and Rotherhope are!

paw42

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Jonathan Parmley of Linton (Hebden and Grassington). Did he come from Alston, Cumberland?
(I know that some records of Alston are kept by the Northumberland Record Office - so I have also posted this under that county)

We have come across my ancestor, Jonathan Parmley in the 1803 Craven Muster Roll. (We believe this is him. Actually the name here is Jonathan Parmeby.) He is registered as living in  Hebden. He is a lead miner and a class one possible combatant (in the case of an invasion by Napoleon), as is mine agent Thomas Dickinson, who was a witness at his wedding. At the time Jonathan was the only person called Parmley in the area, we think.

In 1803 Jonathan married Susannah Frankland, the daughter of a local farmer. They had eight children in all, two of whom died. Their names were; Elizabeth, William, Thomas, Mary, Ann, Mary, Jonathan, Elizabeth. All were born in Grassington.

We know that Susannah’s parents were Thomas and Mary Frankland. It seems therefore that they might have been employing a custom of naming for their children; his father then hers for the boys; his mother then hers for the girls – even using Mary again when the first Mary died.

We cannot trace Jonathan’s birth in 1777. He probably came from a lead mining area to Grassington. We have found the marriage of a William Parmely (sic) to Elizabeth Allison in 1764 in Alston, Cumberland. Using the naming custom, we are working on the hypothesis that these are Jonathan’s parents.

Before going further we’d like to know if anyone has found the baptism of Jonathan which would confirm or disprove our idea.

For more information about the Parmleys in Wharfedale area, see Tony Owen’s site; http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/o/w/e/Anthony-Owen/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0216.html

Or

Join the Wharfdale Family History site to view their database of people who life events were registered in that area;
http://wharfegen.org.uk/


Thanks,

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Jonathan Parmley Born in Alston in 1777?
« on: Friday 27 July 07 17:51 BST (UK)  »
Jonathan Parmley of Linton (Hebden and Grassington). Did he come from Alston, Cumberland?
I am posting this here because Alston parish records are kept by Northumberland Record Office

We have come across my ancestor, Jonathan Parmley in the 1803 Craven Muster Roll. (We believe this is him. Actually the name here is Jonathan Parmeby.) He is registered as living in  Hebden. He is a lead miner and a class one possible combatant (in the case of an invasion by Napoleon), as is mine agent Thomas Dickinson, who was a witness at his wedding. At the time Jonathan was the only person called Parmley in the area, we think.

In 1803 Jonathan married Susannah Frankland, the daughter of a local farmer. They had eight children in all, two of whom died. Their names were; Elizabeth, William, Thomas, Mary, Ann, Mary, Jonathan, Elizabeth. All were born in Grassington.

We know that Susannah’s parents were Thomas and Mary Frankland. It seems therefore that they might have been employing a custom of naming for their children; his father then hers for the boys; his mother then hers for the girls – even using Mary again when the first Mary died.

We cannot trace Jonathan’s birth in 1777. He probably came from a lead mining area to Grassington. We have found the marriage of a William Parmely (sic) to Elizabeth Allison in 1764 in Alston, Cumberland. Using the naming custom, we are working on the hypothesis that these are Jonathan’s parents.

Before going further we’d like to know if anyone has found the baptism of Jonathan which would confirm or disprove our idea.

For more information about the Parmleys in Wharfedale area, see Tony Owen’s site; http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/o/w/e/Anthony-Owen/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0216.html

Or

Join the Wharfdale Family History site to view their database of people who life events were registered in that area;
http://wharfegen.org.uk/


Thanks,


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Lancashire / Velvet Walks, Bolton. A slum?
« on: Thursday 19 October 06 20:19 BST (UK)  »
We found my great great grandfather, his wife and daughter,  living at this address in the 1871 Census

7 Velvet Walks, Bolton.

He is the illusive John Geary, 46 (1825), Head, Painter, Ireland whose son Patrick  changed his name to Joseph Davenport - see separate thread.  A general search on the internet revealed that Velvet Walks was in a slum area, long demolished by now. Can anyone throw any light on the conditions that they might have been living in in 1871?

Can anyone give me an approximate location of Velvet Walks in relation to modern Bolton?

paw

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Berwickshire / Polwarth MI index
« on: Tuesday 19 September 06 19:53 BST (UK)  »
My wife and her mother  did some work, about 12 years ago, on three of the Berwickshire Monumental Inscription series.

Here is the index  of surnames for Polwarth cemetery

ADAMSON 25
AITCHISON 1, 13, 75, 84, 85, 94, 103, 107
ALEXANDER 57
ALLAN 19, 56, 58, 59, 81, 151
ALNE 58
ANDERSON 106
AYRES 126

BATHGET 38
BELL 86, 151
BELLAMY 48
BENNET 161, 162
BIRBECK 131
BLACK 76
BLACKADDER 34
BLACKIE 149
BLEGDEN 6
BLY 139
BOWIE 44, 45
BOYD 121
BRUCE 154
BURGAN 35

CAIRD 93
CALDER 29, 163
CAMPBELL 8
CASS 169
CASSY 67
CHRISTIE 73
CLAPPERTON 126
CLINKSCALE 101
CLINKSKELL 82, 96
COCKBURN 150
COLTHERD 132
COUISON 10
COWISON 10
CRAFORD 31, 66
CRAIG 11
CRAWFORD 30, 64
CUNINGHAM 98
CURRIE 24 , 25

DAWSON 137
DEANS 18
DENHOLM 17, 49, 70
DICKSON 51, 128
DIPPIE 16
DODDS 27
DODS 9, 10, 83, 120
DUNSE 124
EARSMAN 131
EDGAR 100
EDINGTON  79
ELDER 13, 14, 18
ELLIOT 129
ENGLISH 36
ERSKINE 35

FAIRBAIRN 39
FAIRLEY 106
FALCONER 149
FINDLAYSON 96
FLATMAN 46
FOSTER 67, 68
FRASER 3, 57

GAIRDNER 168
GEGGIE 68
GILL 93
GRANT 11, 14,
GRAY 129
GREIG 73,
GRIMWOOD 140, 141
 
HALDANE 52
HALL 28, 103, 148
HALLIDAY 103
HARDIE 74
HENDERSON 40, 42, 125
HENDRY 153
HEPBURN 44, 171
HIDDLESTONE 23
HISLOPE 103
HOGG 23
HOLIDAY 69
HOLIWELL 124
HOLLIDAY 69, 101, 103
HOLYDAY 101
HOME 167, 168
HOOPER 61,62
HUME 135, 169, 171, 172, 175
HUME CAMPBELL 116, 117, 173, 176
HUMPHERSTON 74
HUNTER 21, 60

JAFFRAY 35, 41, 60, 78
JAFFRIE 150
JAMPHRY 32
JEFFEREY 97
JEFFREY 33, 34, 38, 39, 40, 72, 108
JOHNSON 148
JOHNSTON,2, 4, 16, 17, 65

KERR 146, 149
KIRTON 138
KNOX 32
LAUDER 27, 99,  133
LESLY 7
LIDDELL 17
LILLIE 3,16, 77, 82, 83
LONEY 122
LUKE 81
LYAL 30

McALLISTER 18
McCOMB 45
McCRAW 80
McDOUGAL 92, 97, 109
McDOUGALL 157
McEWEN 114, 115
McLAREN 142
MacLEAN 140
McLEAN 29, 130
McLEISH 146, 151
MANDERSON 109
MARSHALL 4, 5
MATHER 156
MAUCHLEN 107
MESSER 155
MIDDLEMISS 14, 18
MILLER 18,121
MILTON 88
MOFFAT 90, 91, 98, 99, 100, 110, 113
MOFFET 98
MOSMON 65
MUIR 70
MURRAY 34 , 120

NISBET 28, 40, 63, 93, 120

OBERY 144

PALMER 96
PATERSON 77, 84, 87
PAXTON 85, 119
PENNY 61,
PHILLIPS 125
PRINGLE 145
PURVES 16, 49, 105

RAE 154
RANKEN 19
RANKINE 20
REA 130
RICHARDSON 33, 156
ROBERTSON 51, 93
ROSS 142
RUNCIMAN 28

SCOTT 135, 155
SHEAR 70
SHIRER 136
SHORT 7
SLIGH 112
SMITH 52, 134, 160
SPENCE 137
STEVNSON 88
STEWART 67, 143
STRUTH 50
SWANSTON 128
SWINE 10

TAUBMAN 127
TAYLOR 15, 153, 159
TEMPLE 15
THOMPSON 8, 119
TOD 94
TORRANCE 147
TROTTER 63, 64, 93
TUCK 54

VEITCH 26
VERTUE 109, 112
VIRTUE 69, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113

WACE 162
WALLACE 104
WARDEN 144
WARRENDER 118
WATERS 31
WATSON 13, 62, 70, 94, 95, 160
WATT 165, 166
WEATHERSTON 85
WEBSTER 52, 54, 55
WEIR 24, 102, 158
WELLS 8
WESTERN 164
WHITE 85
WILLOX 56
WILSON 4, 74, 125
WINTER 41, 77, 78, 79
WOOD 105

YOUNGER 101


I can do look-ups if you give me time.


paw

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Occupation Interests / Railway Guard in Bolton 1878-1901 at least
« on: Sunday 17 September 06 19:07 BST (UK)  »
My Great Grandfather Joseph Davenport ( born 1855 as Patrick Joseph Geary) was a railway guard in Bolton from before 1878 when he married, till at least 1901. The census returns are consistent. In one, his occupation is "Railway Guard (Passenger)".

How can we find which railway company he was probably working for and whether there might be  any records we can consult?

A tough one I know, but someone here might be able to help.

Thanks,

paw

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Lancashire / Joseph Davenport, my great grandfather, or was he Patrick Geary? A puzzle!
« on: Saturday 02 September 06 16:23 BST (UK)  »
My mother knew her grandfather as Patrick Davenport who married Jane Phair in Bolton in 1878.

Notes from my mother read, “ I understand that Patrick’s real name was Geary, he having been brought up by the Davenports as his father was a sign writer (itinerant?).”

At least that is what we learnt from my mother. The marriage certificate of my great grandparents reads;

Date; August 15th 1878
Solemnised at St George’s, Bolton, Lancashire

Joseph Davenport
Age; full
Condition; Bachelor
Profession; Railway Guard
Address; 31 Haydock Street, Bolton
Father; John Davenport, Painter

Jane Phair
Age; full
Condition; Spinster
Residence; 91 Church St, Bolton
Profession; ----
Father; Matthew Phair, Shoe Maker

This is the first we can find of Joseph Davenport. The address he gave seems to be one that took in lodgers in the 1881 census. He and Jane appear in censuses in Bolton from 1881 to 1901.  He is consistent in giving his place of birth as Manchester and an age that gives his d.o.b. as 1854 or 1855. So, he was 24 when he married Jane. He remained a Railway Guard till at least 1901.

There is no trace in the censuses of Joseph before his marriage, or of his birth in Manchester in the right year to a father John.

My mother was born in 1913. As a young girl she knew “Patrick” Davenport, despite the clear evidence that his name was Joseph. Could the family lore be true? In which case we’re looking for Patrick Geary born in Manchester. Does Joseph’s father’s profession of Painter signify anything?

Or is there another explanation? Perhaps Joseph Davenport died before my mother was born or soon after. Then Jane took up with Patrick Geary?

Has anyone any ideas how we can approach this puzzle. Also are there any Railway archives that might be worth consulting.


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