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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Arthur Ellis b.c.1848, London
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Can anyone help me with locating Arthur Ellis, other than where I have found him and perhaps identify his place of birth and birth family.
Arthur Ellis married Jane Bates, Lambeth, March 1870, 1d, 471. I was trying to avoid purchasing the certificate, but will probably have to to hopefully obtain his father's name.
They are on the 1871 census at 27 Georges Street, St George the Martyr, Southwark, Arthur is a labourer age 22 just giving London as PoB. Jane is age 21, b.Southwark, they have a 1 year old son listed as William Eli Ellis. There is no birth registration for William Eli Ellis but there was a registration for a William Berry Bates, Lambeth, Sep. 1869, mother's MN Bates, so I suspect that Arthur Ellis was not his father.
The first known child of Arthur and Jane, also Arthur was born 1872 in Southwark, they went on to have a total of 9 children together all registered in the St Saviour district although at least 4 died in infancy. Jane died in St Saviour age 38 in 1888.
Arthur is on the 1891 census at 11 Lemon Street, Southwark age 42, a widower, with the 3 youngest surviving children, Walter 9, Anne 6 and Mark (I think that he was registered as Martin) 4. Walter I believe died soon after and the other 2 can be found on the 1901 census.
I cannot see Arthur after 1891 nor find a definite death. Neither can I find any trace of the family in 1881 although there is no evidence that they left Southwark. I cannot find any evidence of a birth for Arthur in London or Surrey around 1848 nor any trace on the 1851 or 1861 census, I have eliminated all the Arthur Ellis births and census entries that I have found. In 1871 Arthur has a neighbour James Ellis of a similar age born Whitechapel, I cannot find any family connection to that person.
If anyone can offer any ideas I will be delighted.
Arthur Ellis married Jane Bates, Lambeth, March 1870, 1d, 471. I was trying to avoid purchasing the certificate, but will probably have to to hopefully obtain his father's name.
They are on the 1871 census at 27 Georges Street, St George the Martyr, Southwark, Arthur is a labourer age 22 just giving London as PoB. Jane is age 21, b.Southwark, they have a 1 year old son listed as William Eli Ellis. There is no birth registration for William Eli Ellis but there was a registration for a William Berry Bates, Lambeth, Sep. 1869, mother's MN Bates, so I suspect that Arthur Ellis was not his father.
The first known child of Arthur and Jane, also Arthur was born 1872 in Southwark, they went on to have a total of 9 children together all registered in the St Saviour district although at least 4 died in infancy. Jane died in St Saviour age 38 in 1888.
Arthur is on the 1891 census at 11 Lemon Street, Southwark age 42, a widower, with the 3 youngest surviving children, Walter 9, Anne 6 and Mark (I think that he was registered as Martin) 4. Walter I believe died soon after and the other 2 can be found on the 1901 census.
I cannot see Arthur after 1891 nor find a definite death. Neither can I find any trace of the family in 1881 although there is no evidence that they left Southwark. I cannot find any evidence of a birth for Arthur in London or Surrey around 1848 nor any trace on the 1851 or 1861 census, I have eliminated all the Arthur Ellis births and census entries that I have found. In 1871 Arthur has a neighbour James Ellis of a similar age born Whitechapel, I cannot find any family connection to that person.
If anyone can offer any ideas I will be delighted.