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There was one time that the Coady and Broady clan took off from the McCarrolls. 

Catherine Carroll (known as Kitty) married a Coady and that group became very expensive, moving to Irishtown in Dublin. From there they spread far an wide and I lost track of most of them. Mary moved to France and the twins stayed in the Dublin area.  I think that there were 7 offspring and possibly two have survived and have made inroads to another generation.

Another group that spun off of the McCarroll's were the Boardy bunch.  And they were expensive and I had met many of the, as well as the Coady's. Some even stayed in the Fintona area, with a farm near there.  I believe that there were some that had businesses in Omagh.

I would like to begin looking at their lineage before I bow out entirely.

Jim Carroll

   On another board Sandra located some San Francisco 1870 census information on what I have been thinking was related to Campbell.  But she had the 1870 and 1880 census information that indicated the last name of Charles should be Camppell or Campell.  I would like to see if there is more information from New Jersey that shows that Isabella Amos, born somewhere in Ireland, married Charles prior to their move to San Francisco.
They may have had in attendance Anna McKee or Anna Amos, also born in Ireland, the older sister of Isabella.  She shows up in that census as a boarder and we know that she lived next door to the Campells in San Francisco, in the south park district.

Thank you, Jim

I am looking for illusive materials on the AMOS sisters, ANNIE, ISABELLA and MARY, and anything on the life of JOHN AMOS GAFFIGAN, my great grandfather.  This would include materials on MARGARET CRENNAN GAFFIGAN, my great grandmother, and AGNES BRIDGID CRENNAN GAFFIGAN CARROLL, as stated in her obituary and was my grandmother.
 
MARY AMOS GAFFIGAN (with her sisters, ANNIE AMOS [or possibly McKEE] and ISABELLA CAMPBELL) had left to go to Scotland with her husband PATRICK GAFFIGAN.  We have not located their marriage, in either Ireland or Scotland. Patrick was also born in Ireland according to records we have found.  They had two children, Thomas and John Amos, who were born in Scotland.  After his death she took the children and went to California to live among the two other sisters had arrived in Northern California - before 1867.

In our search for my great grandfather, JOHN AMOS GAFFIGAN, we found that he arrived in the United States with his mother and brother THOMAS in July 1867, aboard the SS Iowa from Glasgow and Londonderry-Moville. We know that he was born in Paisley, Scotland, about 1859, but his parents, Mary AMOS and Patrick GAFFIGAN, were according to various census information from somewhere in Ireland but had left for Scotland probably for work. His father Patrick was born about 1822 and mother Mary was born about 1833, and in both cases ostensibly in Ireland – probably Ulster. Patrick apparently died in Scotland, but we have no details of that death and burial at all.

The family, without the father, arrived in New York and stayed in New Haven, Connecticut. to get bearings from their relatives or sponsors before they made the trip to California. But we have no idea who those people might have been.

We also do not know how they made their way and transited to the Isthmus. But they boarded the Moses Taylor in Nicaragua bound for San Francisco. There they were met by Mary’s sisters. But we have run into an identification problem. It seems as though they may have been sponsored by either one or both of her sisters, who were resident of San Francisco at that time.
The Gaffigans (or Goffigans as listed in the Manifest), and (who may have started out in Scotland as McGaffigan according to the 1851 Scottish census) were met in San Francisco by a Mrs. Charles (Isabella, nee AMOS) CAMPBELL, who then lived at #6 Thompson Avenue in South Park, San Francisco. (This was prior to the great earthquake and fire of 1906, which destroyed much of that area.) They were met also by a Miss Annie AMOS of #5 Thompson Avenue, another aunt that was then single, widowed or divorced.

Mr. Charles Campbell was evidently employed as a collar maker at the Kimball Company at 4th and Bryant. They lived on that block that had a Miss Kelly and daughter, the Crennan family (John married a Maggie Crennan), the Driscolls and the Goodenoughlys.
The Gaffigans temporarily stayed with Annie (or Anna) AMOS (who may have been a Mrs. McKee, but we do not know: SF Census, 1880, born about 1832). They had landed in San Francisco about August 1867.  They then had to move to Alameda California in 1868 with Annie because of the earthquake that year. The two families resided with a Dr. Lambert for the rest of the year and returned to San Francisco in 1869.  They then resided with a Mr. James O’CONNELL who had a stationary and book store at 310 5th street. But we do not know just where Annie lived at that time, nor do we know where the Campbells were residing.

We would like to confirm that Isabella CAMPBELL (CAMPPELL in SF 1880 census, born about 1834) and Annie AMOS (possibly Anna McKEE) were the sisters of Mary AMOS GAFFIGAN. We are pretty sure of that, but have no idea where in Ireland they originally came from. We would like to see where they came from before they were in San Francisco, California if it is at all possible.

In another thread located on the County Louth and County Tyrone boards for Ireland, “Carrolls and McCarrolls – where to start,” Tony found a comment about my grand parents’ marriage and most likely came up with something that we have been searching to fill some gaps. 

My grandfather was Michael Joseph McCarroll, and he was born in Corkhill, County Tyrone, in 1879.  He left Ireland around 1899 for San Francisco to join his brothers Thomas and Patrick. He became a “Carroll” in America. He may have been a saloonkeeper.

My grandmother was Agnes Bridget Gaffigan. She was born in San Francisco, California in 1889 to John Gaffigan and Maggie Crennan.  Somehow Aggie and Mickey met in San Francisco.  A lot of the records we would normally rely upon burned in the San Francisco Great Earthquake and Fire of 1906, more devastating than Dublin’s Four Courts disaster.

The next thing we “knew” was that they got married at St. Patrick’s in Dundalk, County Louth, July 29, 1912 (and NO! it was not a shotgun marriage as my father was their oldest child and he came in 1914).  I have been puzzling about how and when, and where, they met and traveled, then tied that knot because St. Patrick’s was not either one’s church.

Then Tony came up with an arrival, that happened three days before that marriage, and it looked like a piece of the puzzle might be falling into place. A Miss Agnes Gaffigan, a U. S. citizen, had left the states on the Celtic and disembarked at Queenstown, July 26, 1912. She was listed as being 23, which was close to my grandmother’s birthday. We have no idea of how she traveled to Dundalk, or if this was my grandmother – but it surely does seem so.

I asked Tony if Michael had traveled with her, and his answer was negative.  Then he found a “Michael Joseph Carroll,” a saloonkeeper (which he was, at least after that, and brothers and cousins were also publicans) had arrived in Liverpool in 1908 on his way to Ulster – but his recorded age was ten years off (listed as being 39, while he was 29). That would have eliminated him; but then it could have been a scrivener’s error.

We did not treat it as a recorder’s error (and you know that does happen with these things) so we had to dismiss this at this time.  But, when had Michael McCarroll returned to Ireland?  We know that he may have been here before Agnes, but have not found any record of his coming home, or where he might have been staying in County Tyrone.

Now, I have been thinking about this and would raise these issues.  We do know that Patrick, (his brother, born 1873 in Corkhill), traveled frequently between San Francisco and the Fintona and Eskra areas, probably going through Cork’s port Queenstown.  Could this have been just a visit by Michael, and possibly one made with another brother?  That is, if there was a mistake made regarding his age (it was only off one digit, not just 10 years!).

We have been unable to find just what Michael and Patrick did for a living in America (Thomas, another brother was busy raising a family in San Francisco, having married Catherine “Kitty” Daly from Newtownsaville). But they did have money, they traveled, and it did not come from farming. I know, there are such things as legacies.

These are the types of questions we must ask ourselves and others (if living) who possibly might know, if we are to unravel some of the mysteries of our ancestors.

If anyone on the this board has any clues to this mystery I would really be happy if you could share them.  By the way, another Carroll, Honora or Nora, married a Hounihan of Donaghmore; she was a great, great grandmother on my mother’s side.  But they ended up with the Gaghans in Wisconsin.  Funny how these things get mixed up.