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Wales / Searching for Cardiff Orphans
« on: Monday 06 June 05 20:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am trying to find two missing cousins born in Cardiff, not sure when but probably during or before WWII.

They were two boys, sons of Clifford Morgan and Evely Maddocks. The mother committed suicide and the father wanted nothing to do with them, so they ended up in Dr. Barnado's in Cardiff. The elder son was potentially called Christopher Morgan, but I have no proof of this assertion.

Their uncle, Raymond Maddocks (the only brother of mother Evelyn Maddocks - also of Cardiff), spent most of the war in a Japanese prison of war camp, and after surviving and getting back to Wales, he tried to adopt the brothers, but was not allowed to. Since then all trace of the two brothers is lost.

I would like to try to find my cousins, but this is more than a little difficult from Switzerland, and I have been given to understand that UK government rules protect the identity of orphans and make it very difficult to get any information.

If anyone knows the best way to approach this, I would be grateful for a response.

Thanks,
Adrian


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England / Trying to find my cousin Julie F Weeks (b. Bristol)
« on: Sunday 19 December 04 17:55 GMT (UK)  »
My mother (Phyllis Frances Dinneen nee Dart) tells me this story from of the 23rd october 1951:

She went into labour with me and was taken to southmead maternity unit (Bristol).
While lying there waiting for me to arrive another young woman was wheeled into the same room. To her astonishment it was her cousin Peggy Weeks, who had also gone into labour.
After a long night of labour, they both delivered healthy babies within minutes of each other around 06:40 in the morning. The first was myself, and a few minutes later my cousin Julie F. Weeks was born.

I cannot remember ever having met my Aunt Peggy or my cousin Julie, and the families totally lost contact with each other.
Undoubtedly Julie has married in the meantime and therefore a name search is probably useless.

If anyone knows either of Julie herself or has any ideas how I might trace her I would be very grateful.

Adrian

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Wales / Severn Tunnel
« on: Sunday 19 December 04 00:14 GMT (UK)  »

Family legend insists that my great grandfather, David Edward Dinneen, late of 72 Penypeel Rd. Cardiff, died of lung disease apparantly contracted when working in apalling conditions as a foreman on the construction of the Severn Tunnel.

Census Information to date shows he was a bricklayers labourer in 1881 and a dock labourer in 1891 and 1901, as he was on his 1905 death certificate - which showed him dying of what appears to be a burst appendix rather than lung disease.
This information is not consistent with him being a foreman on the severn tunnel construction as family legend would have it. However, Welsh family legend to date has proved to be very accurate indeed, so it would be foolish of me to reject Welsh family legend at this stage despite the census and death certificate entries.

Does anyone know whether employee records for the severn tunnel construction are available and where they may be looked up?

Thanks and regards,
Adrian



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Montgomeryshire / Caer Street, Newportr and Pillgwenlly
« on: Sunday 19 December 04 00:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

My original Irish imigrant ancestors married at St. Mary's Church, newport on the 26th July 1846.

George Dinneen, full age, batchelow, labourer, Caer St. Newport, father Daniel Dinneen, a labourer
and
Ellen Ring / Reen, full age, spinster, Huxter (!), Pillgwenlly, Father John Ring/Reen, a butcher

From other sources I know that they were born in Ireland (no dates), and I assume that they emigrated to Wales due to the great famine. They were of course Roman Catholic and dirt poor.

My questions:
What is a Huxter? (so far been described as either a lady of ill repute or some sort of barrow boy like Molly Malone - don't know if either is true or if this was special to Wales!)
Where is Pillgwenlly (can't find it anywhere)
Does anyone have access to the 1841 census to see if they were already in Wales in 1841?

Any info gratefully recieved
Thanks and regards,
Adrian

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Devon / Robert Gillard b. sanford 1792
« on: Sunday 12 December 04 21:30 GMT (UK)  »
I cannot remember where, but somewhere, on some site, I saw someone was searching for a Rober Gillard b. sanford 1792.

I have a Robert Gillard (Jellet) born Sandford, Devon in 1792, married Elizabeth Jane Alford 20th March 1811 and had children william, samuel, james, john, william, amelia and robert.

First wife Elizabeth Jane Alford died 1830 and Robert remarried to Charlotte Hubbar on 4th November 1831- no children that i am aware of.

I have the line back to the early 1700's plus a lot of other information, so if whoever was searching for this finds this post, feel free to contact me for further information.

Adrian

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Devon Lookup Requests / Warren / Bullworthy of Devon
« on: Sunday 28 November 04 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
Mathew Warren married Mary Bullworthy on 10th June 1798 in Cheriton Fitzpain, Devon.
Their youngest child, Christiana Warren b June 1817 in Exeter and married James Gillard. Other children were William (1799) Mary (1801) John (1804) Ann (1808)

I have not been able to trace either Mathew Warren or Mary Bullworthy any further back than their marriage. If anyone else is researching these lines I would be grateful to hear from them.

Adrian

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Wales / Cleopatra Loise Marchant in 1901 Census
« on: Sunday 28 November 04 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
My paternal Grandmother:

Cleopatra Louise Marchant
born 17th Sept 1893 at 7 Bishops St. Grange, Cardiff

Her Certificate of Registry of a birth and her birth certificate both give her name as "Clia Louise"
Her Marriage certificate gives her name as "Cleopatra Louise"
Her certificate of registration as a citizen of Rhodesia gives her name as "Clia Louise"
The birth certificates of all 3 of her children name her as "Cleopatra Louise"
Her Zimbabweian death certificate names her "Clea Louise"

In the family she was mostly known as Aunty Loui to the generation before mine (to my generation she was Granny Dinneen)

I have checked the 1901 census under every spelling I can think of. I have tried with girls aged 7 (+-5years) born in Cardiff. I have tried every which way, and I cannot find her in the 1901 census.
It is highly unlikely that she was abroad on census day 1901, but I cannot find her.

Has anyone any ideas if I am missing something obvious here in my search of the 1901 census for Clia/Cleopatra?

Thanks,
apd


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Montgomeryshire Lookup Requests / Adams (killed in mine)/ Woolley / Lewis
« on: Saturday 20 November 04 16:43 GMT (UK)  »
My gggrandfather Henry John Adams was killed in the gas explosion at Risca New Colliery in 1880. Family history says his mangled body was found holding his bible, and that he was virtually the only man in his village able to read and write (but as I descend from a long line of Welsh women teachers, I take such literary pride with a pinch of salt - you forgot to dot your "i" again boy, so hold your hand out now is it!).

I have not been able to find his marriage to Elizabeth Woolley (their first child was born in 1861), and I am wondering - given the family legend about the bible - if he was perhaps non-conformist and that is why I cannot find his marriage. If anyone knows how to find non-conformist marriages I would be very grateful.

Also, Elizabeth Woolley's parents are proving very elusive, as is her life and death after Henry John Adams died in Risca mine. Her birth certificate (29.06.1838) shows her parents to be Edward Wo(o)lley and Martha Wo(o)lly nee Lewis, both of Montgomeryshire per the 1841 census below. The family is found in Newtown in the 1841 census below, but 10 years later the children are in the workhouse, possibly as orphans. Also in the workhouse are Martha and Edward Lewis, who I believe might potentially be the children's grandparents and the parents of Martha Woolley nee Lewis, but I have no proof of this.

The last trace I have of Elizabeth Adams nee Woolly is aged 42, a widow, in the 1881 census. I find no trace of her after that - perhaps she remarried, perhaps she died or emigrated.

If there is anyone out there also researching the Adams / Woolley / Lewis lines, I would be very grateful to hear from them.

Thanks,
Adrian


1841 Census                  
Reference Number:      Ref HO8107/1440/1 folio 39            
Address      Lady Well Street, Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales            
Name   First Names   Age   Relation   Occupation   Born:   
               CTY   Place
WOOLLEY   Edward   30   Head   Wool Weaver   Montg   
WOOLLEY   Martha (LEWIS)   25   Wife   Wool Spinner   Montg   
WOOLLEY   Elizabeth   3   Daur      Montg   
WOOLLEY   Martha    2or 0.2   Daur      Montg   

1851 Census                  
Reference Number:      Ref HO/107/2496 folio 421            
Address      Newtown and Llanidloes Workhouse            
Name   First Names   Age   Relation   Occupation   Born:   
               CTY   Place
LEWIS   Martha   70   Widow   Shoebinder   Montg   Llanllwchaiarn
LEWIS   Edward   65   unmarried   Spinner   Montg   Llandyssil
WOOLLEY   Elizabeth   13   Orphan?   Scholar      Newtown
WOOLLEY   Martha   11   Orphan?   Scholar      Newtown
WOOLLEY   Edward   8   Orphan?   Scholar      Newtown

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Somerset Lookup Requests / William MARCHANT b Backwell around 1816-1820
« on: Friday 19 November 04 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
Per 1861 Penarth census, william marchant (merchant), aged 42, inkeeper, born Backwell, Som.
I have not been able to locate his birth or parents (nor his later marriage - slippery customer)
According to family legend he was a pugilist taking on all-comers using the name "Ginger Nailsea", apparantly owned or worked at the Ring of Bells Inn in Nailsea, and there was also something about a transport business.

My marchant research stopped dead with William from Backwell - since about 4 years I have not been able to make any progress. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Adrian

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