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I am trying to trace a will for Catherine Owens of Penpark/Benpark, Llandisilliogogo - died 2 Dec 1873 aged approx 76.
On the 1871 census she is living at Pen/Benpark with her granddaughter Catherine Evans (in 1881 census Penpark is uninhabited....)

Catherine's husband Owen died intestate in 1851 and I have the documents (from National Library of Wales) showing that all his property was legally given over to Catherine.

So now I am hoping to see who she left it to upon her death - I'm trying to establish who their children were, or more specifically whether Owen Owen(s) born ca 1833-4 in Llanllwchaiarn is their son or not (Owen is my gt gt grandfather)

Any assistance gratefully received
thanks!
Suitcase

Hi,

looking for dates for these 2 pics of my gt g'father who served in the Scots Guards from 1905 to 1916
thanks!
Suitcase

Hi all,

Hoping you can help with a bit of a brick wall I seem to have reached 

My aunt did some research into the family tree and passed on her notes to me. From these notes, my great great grandfather was Owen Owens, born in about 1833 in Llanllwchaiaern, died January 1880 in a pit accident at Dowlais Colliery.
He married Mary (surname unknown - have not found marriage yet - assume around 1857 as first child born around 1858) and had 8 children. Mary died in 1904 and is buried at Capel Wig nr Llangranog
According to my aunt, Owen is also buried there, but I could not find his gravestone when I visited...

On the 1871 census, Owen and Mary are living at Brynsoden, Llanllwchaiaern with their children Ellen, James (my great grandfather), David and Catherine.

So far so good apart from the missing gravestone....

My aunt then has Owen's parents listed as Cathrine and Owen Owens. These two are buried at Capel Wig and I have found what I am pretty sure is them in the following census (gravestone makes reference to Benpark, Lllandissiliogogo so it fits):

1841 Llandisilio Gogo
Owen and Cathrine both aged 40, Margaret 16, Jane 14, Thomas 13, John 2, Elizabeth 6 months

1851 Ben Park, Llandisiliogogo
Owen and Cathrine both aged 53
Children: Jane 26, Thomas 24, John 12, Elizabeth 9
Grandson (assume this is Margaret's son) Owen Evans 5

1871 Llandisiliogogo
Cathrine Owens 72
Grand dau Cathrine Evans aged 20

Can't find them in 1861.

So here is the mystery: if Owen Jnr is the son of Owen Snr & Cathrine, then why does he not appear on any of the census? In 1841 he would have been 8 so surely too young to be away from home?

I can't find Owen Jnr in 1861 either - is the Llandissilio census perhaps missing/incomplete for 1861?

Not really sure where to go now in order to either prove or disprove that Owen Jnr's parents were Owen and Cathrine and to make some progress

All thoughts/assistance most welcome
Thank you!
Suitcase

Hi everyone,

Two pics attached. In the first one the lady seated is my gt grandma with her daughter, born 1899 - the child looks maybe 4 or 5 I think, so pic would have been 1904-5 - does that look about right?

In the second pic, it's gt grandma again (at least I think so) but not sure if it's also the same daughter, and therefore the pic is around 1899-1900. As far as I know the only other child was my grandfather born 1903 - but I think the child in the pic is a girl?

Your expert opinions much appreciated

Thanks!
Suitcase