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Travelling People / Rab Howell Gypsy Footballer
« on: Tuesday 21 July 09 16:26 BST (UK)  »
As a gypsy and a sports fanatic, I would be interested to know if anyone knows anything about the family history of Rab Howell.  Howell is reputed to be the only Romany Gypsy to play for England.  In my experience, Howell is not a Gypsy name and I am intrigued to know what his Romany connections were.

He played for Liverpool and Sheffield.  Lots of Rabs/ Rabbis among my Mom's Boswells and I wondered if he might be connected to them :)

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Travelling People / Reuben/ Rodney Smith
« on: Saturday 23 May 09 18:41 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

I am a Gypsy Smith and my Grt Grandfather Guilroy, son of James Smith and Sarah Lock appears on the census in the late 1800's in Leonard Stanley Glos.

I know ( thanks to RG1) that Guilroy had a brother Gypsy Reuben Smith a preacher.  This is a great family enigma.  No one knows if this man is related to Rodney Smith.  Over generations tales of the men have become interintwined according to the illiterate,oral tradition of my family.  My great uncle Luke Smith told of meeting one of the preachers on the frontline.  When he introduced himself,the preacher had him sent home because he was too young to fight.

My Grandad thought that the two men were one and the same but this now seems unlikely.  I know that Rodney's Grandad was a James Smith and that hehad a multitude of children from more than one woman. 

Please could anyone shed any light at all on this 50 year old family mystery.  My Dad is in his late seventies and i would love to find the answers for him as well as myself. :)

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