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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / 1844 Brits working in Hungary & Germany
« on: Wednesday 10 June 09 13:10 BST (UK) »
My interest lies in picking brains in regards to the history of why a man back in 1844 would traipse his pregnant wife and family across Europe. Would they have been well off? How would they have got to Germany and Hungary? If both my Obadiah’s had more children born overseas or wives that died overseas would the births/deaths have to be registered with a British embassy? If so where do I start looking?
Sorry this is so drawn out...but please could you help me unravel a bit of history.
What is known to me
Elizabeth Ames found on 1841 census aged 40 independent means with an Obadiah Ames spectacle maker .. my GGrandfather although the age is out by a few years? On the same page is his brother Edwin Ames an Engraver but living at a different address?
Obadiah William Ames/Amos Snr married Ann Smith in 1844 St Phillips Birmingham he is listed as a Powder flash maker
1851census Obadiah snr is living in Aston Birmingham as a gun barrel borer has a son Obadiah jnr aged 2. his year of birth abt 1849/50 born Mayorszag Pesth Hungary.
This son Obadiah William Ames born 1848 Mayorszag Pesth Hungary. Is my headache.
He married Louisa Orme 2 February 1868 St Pauls Balsall Heath. They had two children Enoch Ames & Emma Ames.
Cannot find a death for Louise Ames nee Orme b1850 Aston B’ham
Obadiah Ames jnr married 2nd wife Emma Orme 2 April 1876 St Andrews Church Birmingham. Cannot find a death for Emma Ames b 1856. Edgbaston B’ham
1881 census living with wife Emma and children Mile end Old Town Middlesex as a gas fitter.
Obadiah jnr was alive in 1888 as he attended his daughter Emma’s wedding.
1891 census Found Obadiah jnr in Derby as a professional singer living with an Elizabeth Ames born Ohio USA a singer.
Where Obadiah is listed as married, Elizabeth Ames is listed as married but if you look at the census some women are listed as Wife. So can I presume perhaps that Elizabeth is not is wife but a relative?
Obadiah William Ames professional singer aged 48 Death Canning Derby 12 January 1895 informant WIFE Mabel Ames! Which would give him a birth year of 1847.It’s definitely the right man but what is he doing with Mabel Ames?
Any advice gratefully and humbly accepted.
Sorry this is so drawn out...but please could you help me unravel a bit of history.
What is known to me
Elizabeth Ames found on 1841 census aged 40 independent means with an Obadiah Ames spectacle maker .. my GGrandfather although the age is out by a few years? On the same page is his brother Edwin Ames an Engraver but living at a different address?
Obadiah William Ames/Amos Snr married Ann Smith in 1844 St Phillips Birmingham he is listed as a Powder flash maker
1851census Obadiah snr is living in Aston Birmingham as a gun barrel borer has a son Obadiah jnr aged 2. his year of birth abt 1849/50 born Mayorszag Pesth Hungary.
This son Obadiah William Ames born 1848 Mayorszag Pesth Hungary. Is my headache.
He married Louisa Orme 2 February 1868 St Pauls Balsall Heath. They had two children Enoch Ames & Emma Ames.
Cannot find a death for Louise Ames nee Orme b1850 Aston B’ham
Obadiah Ames jnr married 2nd wife Emma Orme 2 April 1876 St Andrews Church Birmingham. Cannot find a death for Emma Ames b 1856. Edgbaston B’ham
1881 census living with wife Emma and children Mile end Old Town Middlesex as a gas fitter.
Obadiah jnr was alive in 1888 as he attended his daughter Emma’s wedding.
1891 census Found Obadiah jnr in Derby as a professional singer living with an Elizabeth Ames born Ohio USA a singer.
Where Obadiah is listed as married, Elizabeth Ames is listed as married but if you look at the census some women are listed as Wife. So can I presume perhaps that Elizabeth is not is wife but a relative?
Obadiah William Ames professional singer aged 48 Death Canning Derby 12 January 1895 informant WIFE Mabel Ames! Which would give him a birth year of 1847.It’s definitely the right man but what is he doing with Mabel Ames?
Any advice gratefully and humbly accepted.