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Lanarkshire / CONNELL, McKINNON, ANDERSON- Tobermory, Glasgow and Hamilton,
« on: Tuesday 25 February 20 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rootschatters
I may not ever know the answer to this but someone among you may have knowledge/suggestion other than give up.
I have my gg grandmother, Mary Ferguson (MS McKinnon) and two children, with her parents, Donald and Peggy McKINNON, in 1861 census in Tobermory. I haven't been able to find parents for Peggy because she died,in 1878, a widow, in the poorhouse, Tobermory with no information of parents recorded. If i could trace any more of their children it might help.(Apart from Mary m Ferguson and Catherine(Kate) m Connell.
In the 1851c with Donald and Peggy still at Breast, Tobermory is Mary's older sister's husband Joseph CONNEL. He and Catherine McKinnon were married 24.1.1851 in Gorbals Glasgow and I can follow them in addresses in Hamilton in subsequent years. I don't know why Catherine (or Kate as in Tobermory at 1841 census) was not there in 1851, though.
Who does seem to be there is a 1yr old granddaughter called Mary ANDERSON.
In 1861 there is an 11yr granddaughter called Mary Paterson born Gorbals. Right age but is it a misspelling of Anderson a different child.
A Mary Connell, age 20 born Glasgow, appears in the 1871 census with them in Hamilton recorded as daughter. I assume she has been adopted because she is older than their children, William, Robert and Elizabeth.

If it is the same Mary as Mary Anderson/Paterson since the ages are about right, was she a niece that was orphaned in 1851? Who were her parents. I can't work it out after a day at Scotlandspeople.

Any help would be surprising and welcome,
Mary

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Scotland / McDonald or McIlraich Ardchattan
« on: Monday 28 January 19 01:24 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know why two McDonald families in Ardchattan would be transcribed as McIlraich or McIlreach by Scotlandspeople and Freecen. One because of legibility of handwriting I could accept but two families is puzzling me. It was so hard to find them when working back chronologically through Ardchattan census because I was looking for the McDonald name I started with in 1881 census. Eventually I found these:
1841 has Euphane McIlriach age 40 at Kiel Crofts
1851 has Euphemia McIlreach age 52 with same husband Donald and children at Achnacreemore. Whereas 1881,71,61 has her with or without Donald and whichever children are still at home at Achnacreemore as McDONALD

The other family
Ardchattan 1841  Achnacreemore

MCILRIACH Alexander M 60 Farmer Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Chirstian M 55 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Archibald M 25 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH William M 20 Ap Argyllshire
MCILRIACH John M 15 Argyllshire
MCILRIACH Leasy F 20 Argyllshire
MCPHAIL Donald M 25 Tailor Argyllshire
MCPHAIL Mary F 25 Argyllshire
MACKENZIE Colin M 9 Ag Labourer Argyllshire
MCGREGOR Isabella F 60 Widow Argyllshire
Piece: SCT1841/504 Place: Ardchattan-Argyllshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Ardchattan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 6 Page: 6
 
1851 at Selma
Alexander McDonald  W 75 crofter of 8ac
Archibald McDonald U 38 ??? Ag Lab
John McDonald U 29 Ag Lab


I can only think that perhaps the wife in both of these families had that maiden name, although why not use the husband's name?
 Perhaps transcription is the only reason.
 However I would be glad of any explanation that might tie these families or otherwise.

Sorry this is so long winded,

Mary


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Thursday 15 September 16 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters
I have re posted this here at the suggestion of a more experienced user on the Scotland site. I live in Scotland and am interested in who was involved in helping the emigration to NZ and in what way.

Original request:
I have come across terminology on an emigration record that I don't understand. I would like to be clear in my head about who was paying and who was to be paid back for the journey made by a family of few resources emigrating to New Zealand in 1862.
Someone on this site very kindly sent a link to records which helped me confirm that the family that I had lost track of in Scottish records had indeed emigrated. He/she found them on a passenger list.

One sheet on which their names appear is headed Assisted emigration to Canterbury New Zealand, by the ship Chariot of Fame and another is headed BILLS sent from the colony to the undermentioned Persons Passengers by the Chariot of Fame

The columns of the sheet about bills are:
Name of Person to whom Bills have been remitted by Friends in the Colony (husband ,wife, children)
Drawer (a former neighbour in Scotland)
Acceptor (a name I don't recognise is in this column)
Ist 2nd or 3rd of exchange (1st)
Date  (June 1862)
Amount of Bill  (£20 each for the couple and £16.13.4 for 4 children 17,15,13,11years old
Amount to be collected     " " "

If anyone can explain what the usual practice was I would be very grateful.

Thank you in anticipation

Mary

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Scotland / paying for passage from Scotland to NZ
« on: Thursday 15 September 16 14:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi Rootschatters

I have come across terminology on an emigration record that I don't understand. I would like to be clear in my head about who was paying and who was to be paid back for the journey made by a family of few resources emigrating to New Zealand in 1862.
Someone on this site very kindly sent a link to records which helped me confirm that the family that I had lost track of in Scottish records had indeed emigrated. He/she found them on a passenger list.

One sheet on which their names appear is headed Assisted emigration to Canterbury New Zealand, by the ship Chariot of Fame and another is headed BILLS sent from the colony to the undermentioned Persons Passengers by the Chariot of Fame

The columns of the sheet about bills are:
Name of Person to whom Bills have been remitted by Friends in the Colony (husband ,wife, children)
Drawer (a former neighbour in Scotland)
Acceptor (a name I don't recognise is in this column)
Ist 2nd or 3rd of exchange (1st)
Date  (June 1862)
Amount of Bill  (£20 each for the couple and £16.13.4 for 4 children 17,15,13,11years old
Amount to be collected     " " "

If anyone can explain what the usual practice was I would be very grateful.

Thank you in anticipation

Mary






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Scotland / Scottish Muirhead died in New Zealand
« on: Saturday 25 June 16 22:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi
This is the other way round from many requests for information. I have been following a Muirhead family from St Ninians Parish near Stirling in central Scotland. My ancestors, as far back as I can go, are John Muirhead and Janet Adam who had children born about 1793-1813. They were born at Drum Farm, beside Dundaff Hill and the River Carron. I have been able to follow most of that generation. The youngest one, Peter Muirhead, has given me the most trouble. I know he married a Margaret Adam also from Carron Valley. In the 1861 census they were living in St Ninians village. Peter was working with his older brother, Thomas, on a farm in the area. Margaret was at home with younger children Janet and Margaret. Older children Elizabeth and John were working as servants locally at that time.
 After that I could find no trace.

I ordered from New Zealand death certificates for a Peter and a Margaret Muirhead. They died at Templeton near Christchurch. There are many things in the records that suggest this is the same family-occupation, how long been in NZ (since 1863), three daughters and one son and name of Peter's fathers.
However his mother's name is recorded as Margaret, not Janet; the ages of the children are close but not quite matching those in 1861 (and the certificate does not name them). Margaret is recorded as Adams with the added "s".

I wondered if any descendants of Peter and Margaret's children could help me.

Thank you for reading
Mary

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Scotland / mystery surname, Pruler
« on: Wednesday 28 November 12 13:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi fellow rootschatters

I would appreciate help to understand what MI for South Perthshire shows is/was on a stone in Muthill burial ground
I found that an ancestor who died in St Ninians Stirlingshire as feuer of 2 acres of land at Chartershall, was buried back in his home area with his wife and unmarried daughter. They were John Morrison, Helen Smith and Ann Morrison.

The note in the MI record says " Lair Book 118, John Morison, feuer, son of David PRULER or Morison. Next lair, David PRULER, Drummawhance."

I can find no information on this surname whether it refers to an occupation or is a nickname or whatever.

Regards
Mary


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FH Documents and Artefacts / William Laird Inverpeffer awards
« on: Saturday 15 September 12 22:53 BST (UK)  »
From clearing my mother's house I have two small cetrificates from 1900-"Panbride and Arbirlot District Ploughing Association". They show the winner of 2 parts of the ploughing competition that year. The name filled is Wm Laird, Inverpeffer.
If this means anything to anyone because an ancestor was a ploughman/farmer at that time please let me know. I have no use for them. I suspect my father, who also ploughed with horses, picked them up in a job lot at an auction.

Mary

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Unwanted Certificates & Artefacts / Roebuck Saskatchewan letters 1934
« on: Monday 14 May 12 21:49 BST (UK)  »
There are 3 or 4 letters written to my mother, who would have been about 15yrs old in 1935. She had answered requests from several girls in Canada who wanted a Scottish penpal and had a short correspondence period with a Jessie Roebuck. Her mother wrote too. The mother was Scottish and had been born Joan McIntyre in Kippen, Stirlingshire. This is where my mother was and so the letter mentions memories about local people around Kippen from 40 or 50 years earlier e.g. Dr McDairmid and shopkeepers McQueen, McDougal, Dunn, Cooper, asking if the families were still there. McNicols at Port of Menteith too.

She mentions her McIntyre cousins in the schoolhouse in Aberfoyle, a sister in Perth and some information about a nephew Peter Clark working for Lord Scone.

Her own children in Canada seem to be
Violet married to a farmer called Derbyshire;
Mae married name Park living in Regina;
Marion a nurse;
John died age 4yrs;
Jessie at boarding School at Assinaboia;
Arthur school 15yrs
There is a fair bit about the hard life she had in Saskatchewan in 30's.

If these are of any interest to anyone please get in touch.

Mary

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London and Middlesex / look up please
« on: Thursday 14 July 11 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Hello all

If any one can find Winifred Grace Scott's birth details  in West Green London in December 1891 we would be most grateful

Thanks
Mary

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