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This is apparently the baptism record for Marie Délia Lucienne Saumur, daughter of Augustin Saumur and Delia Gascon.

The indexed information for this record includes birth date 13 Jul 1914 and baptism date 19 Jul 1907 which obviously can't be correct, and even my decades old schoolboy French tells me that it starts "Le dix-neuf juillet mil neuf cent quatorze" i.e. 19 Jul 1914 - I don't see a 13 Jul or a 1907 anywhere.

Can anybody enlighten me as to what it says?

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Cork / Unexpected grandmothers' surnames - expecting Swiney/Keys, got Foley/Lyons !?
« on: Wednesday 15 November 23 15:15 GMT (UK)  »
We have a couple, Patrick Swiney (shoemaker, 24) and Margaret Keys (servant, 22) both of Mulberry, Mitchelstown, Co Cork, married in the RC church there on 26 May 1868.

Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11462/8212609.pdf

The couple have 12 children between 1869 and 1888. Although one or two of the birth registrations give the mother's surname as Keays or Hayes we're fairly certain that it's the same couple, mainly because the chances of there being more than one shoemaker named Patrick sweeney married to a Margaret living in Mulberry, Mitchelstown, Co Cork are slim, and all the births seem to fit together sensibly.

On the civil birth registrations of Edward the informant is grandmother Margaret Foley.

Edward's 1882 birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02779/2020335.pdf

On the civil birth registrations of John and Martin the informant is grandmother Margaret Lyons

John's 1883 birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02710/1997792.pdf
Martin's 1886 birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02589/1956777.pdf

That's the puzzle - surely the names of the two grandmothers should be Swiney and Keys, not Foley and Lyons ?

Does anybody have any possible explanations ?

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Armed Forces / WO 315 lookup request at TNA at Kew: Paratrooper Wladyslaw Baranowski
« on: Wednesday 15 November 23 14:28 GMT (UK)  »
Paratrooper Wladyslaw Baranowski almost certainly served in the the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade (Poland) in WW2 and I'm hoping to find his unit and service number. The following two record sets seem the most promising but aren't digitised, so a visit to Kew is necessary. Being in SE Asia I can't do this myself:

- WO 315/39/5 Parachute Brigade - Stars and Medals.
- WO 315/52/7 Enlistment into Polish Resettlement Corps of members of the Polish Home Army in Germany

Further background in the Any chance to find WW2 Polish paratrooper Wladyslaw Baranowski service record ? topic

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We know he was born on 20 Oct 1915 in Wlodzimierz, Wolyn, Poland (from his 1962 US petition for naturalization along with his second wife).

We know from a newspaper report (page 6 of the 31 Aug 1945 Peterborough Standard) of his 28 Aug 1945 Peterborough marriage that he was "Paratrooper Wladyslaw Baranowski, of a Polish unit [who] came on shore leave and returned immediately to Germany, where he is serving with the B.A.O.R."

We know nothing about him between those dates, but following the Wikipedia breadcrumb trail of BAOR, BLA, 21st Army Group, Polish I Corps, I ended up at the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade (Poland), and somehow (my browser history doesn't tell me how) got to the fact that RAF Spitalgate, about 20 miles from Peterborough, was "the training and point-of-departure for the Polish 1st Independent Parachute Brigade during Operation Market Garden.", which makes me think (educated guesswork) that he met his bride-to-be while training there.






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Ireland / What's happened to Griffiths Valuation at AskAboutIreland ?
« on: Saturday 14 October 23 05:22 BST (UK)  »
This link

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

I've been using this for a while now but today it's giving me a page for primary school children about the natterjack toad.


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Cork / Griffiths valuation, Patrick Cusack, Ballkearney 11a. But maps only show 9 plots
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 16:42 BST (UK)  »
A search of Griffiths valuation for Patrick Cusack in Condons and Clangibbon, Co Cork at askaboutireland.ie gives a single result in Kilgullane civil parish. Looking at the original page he's the occupier of Ballykearney 11a. But looking at the map view (all 4 versions) Ballykearney only has 9 plots, 1A, 1B, and 2 to 8.

So where are plots 9, 10, and 11 ?

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Cork / Townland of Lisheenakirka (Macroney civil parish) ?
« on: Monday 25 September 23 11:47 BST (UK)  »
This townland appears in the Tithe Applotment books http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/pagestab/Cork/Macroney/ but I can't find it at

- logainm.ie - https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=lisheenakirka&str=on
- townlands.ie https://www.townlands.ie/cork/macroney/
- John Grenham https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=104&civilparish=Macroney&CountyMap=

So where's it gone ?

I assume it was renamed, merged, or something like that, which poses a more general question - when the townlands in the earlier records are different from those in later records how does one find out which new ones match which old ones ?

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Cork / Ellen Cusack, born c1834 - trying to find her father Patrick (not James)
« on: Saturday 23 September 23 14:42 BST (UK)  »
Ellen married Michael Corbett on 8 March 1859 in the RC parish of Glanworth and Ballindangan, Diocese of Cloyne - sixth entry on the left page here https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633883#page/21/mode/1up )

The couple lived in Ballykearney and had seven children between 1860 and 1872. The informant for two of their children's births is 'Patrick Cusack, occupier'
 - William b14Oct1865 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03550/2307020.pdf
 - Patrick b9May1868 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03437/2262165.pdf

The informant for 66yo Patrick Cusack's 15Jul1871 Ballykearney death was daughter Ellen Cusack of Ballykearney https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020763/7284100.pdf

The informant for 84yo James Cusack's 5Sep1891 death was niece Ellen Corbett of Ballykearney https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06061/4727950.pdf

Ellen died in 1900 in Ballykearney (Mitchelstown, Co Cork) aged 66, so estimated birth year 1834  - entry 362 fourth from bottom here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05743/4621612.pdf

However, I'm drawing blanks trying to track down a Patrick Cusack who had a daughter Ellen around 1834. Any help would be much appreciated.


(I originally thought that James was her father, as the 29 Aug 1840 baptism of Ellen, daughter of Jas Cusack and Jane Lane was the only record that came close, and it was in the parish where she got married - just over halfway down the left page here https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633882#page/23/mode/1up. But the informant details for James and Patrick's deaths make it quite clear that this is not her)




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I can't make out the father's occupation for entry 50 (Ellen Cusack b 4 Mar 1866 Mitchelstown (Co Cork) to Patrick and Bridget)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03526/2297670.pdf

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