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Dublin / Thomas Fredrick Gray born c.1865 Dublin
« on: Wednesday 21 April 10 16:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I'm currently struggling to trace my great grandfather, Thomas Fredrick Gray. According to the 1911 Irish census, he was born in 1865 in Dublin. I can find no record of his birth on pilot.familysearch.org or on ifhf.brsgenealogy.com.

Thomas Gray was the father of my grandfather, John Gray. He married Mary Elizabeth Lemon on 05 May 1891 in Armagh. According to the marriage record on IFHF, his full name is Thomas Fredrick Gray. His father is listed as Joseph Gray, a coachman.

The witnesses were James J Elliott and Annie Quinne.

They were married in the Presbyterian Church by licence by J Elliott.

Residents of house number 68 in Solway (Victoria (part of), Down)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Solway/226768/

Do the familysearch records only go back to a certain date? Do you think he lied about his age on the census? Am I missing something obvious?

I'd be grateful for any help,
Thanks,
David

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Ireland / HELP - marriage certificates, Ireland
« on: Friday 21 August 09 14:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I was trying to order the marriage certificate of my grandparents, so that I could find out their names, from the GRONI website. Their names were John Gray and Lucinda Isabella Chapman, and they were married on 28/04/1920 in Killeevan, Monaghan, Ireland. Unfortunately I needed to know the name of the Church and the Place of marriage. Killeevan and Monaghan were not options for Place of marriage and it would not accept Killeevan for name of church. I looked on google and all I could find was the Roman Catholic church in Killeevan, and that was definitely not it!
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
David

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Monaghan / Gray, Lemon and Chapman Family of Clones, Monaghan, and Belfast
« on: Thursday 20 August 09 23:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
My mother was Lucinda Elizabeth Gray (nicknamed Linda), born 09/03/1921 in Clones. She was married to Harry Clough. Her parents were Lucinda Isabella Chapman (born 04/04/1899 in Clones, died 08/11/1942 in Clones) and John Gray (born 01/06/c1900 in Belfast, died 27/05/1967 in Clones), who were married on 28/04/1920 in Killevan, Clones, Monaghan. They had two other younger children, Margaret Amelia Gray (nicknamed Peggy, died about 1991) and John Joseph Gray (nicknamed Jack, died about 1992).

John Gray's brothers were Isaac, Charles, Thomas and Henry and his sisters were Clementine and Harriet. Clementine died relatively young and Harriet was nicknamed Ann and married Herbert (Jim) Deeks and she died in 1993 in Harrogate and was born in 1905, I presume in Belfast. Herbert had a sister, Katherine, who was married to Fred William Hicks. Charles was married to Bessie and has one daughter, Maeve, who is married to Trevor Macgowan.

Lucinda Isabella Chapman had nine siblings:

Samuel - killed in the Battle of the Somme, aged 18, died 01/07/1916 and is on the Thiepval Memorial. War record 17934, 9th Battalion, Royal Irish Fusiliers.
Joseph - emigrated to USA
Anna - possibly had two sons in the USA - unsure of this, my mother filled it in in a book, but this could be Joseph or Anna, she crossed over the lines.
George - bachelor
Margaret - no family
William - married Lily and had Gladys and Bobby in New Zealand.
Amelia - married a Charles Sixsmith I think and had at least 3 kids - Vera, Norman and Violet.
Sophie - died aged 21
Robert - married Harriet and had at least the following children - Esmond, Robert, Wesley, Wilbur, Lily, Lucy and Maud.

I've been able to trace my English ancestors back to the 16th century, but I can't get anywhere with my Irish ancestors as there don't seem to be any records for Ireland. If anyone knows any websites with records for Ireland or if anyone is related, please do not hesitate to contact me, as I would love to find out more about my Irish roots.

John Gray's parents were Thomas Gray and Mary Elizabeth Lemon. Mary's parents were John Lemon and Harriett Williamson, who were from Killycronaghan, Killeevan, Monaghan.

Thanks,
I hope to receive some replies,
David

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