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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Newspaper/court papers search - Louis Beaufort
« on: Wednesday 14 September 11 16:42 BST (UK)  »
Louis Beaufort was "married" to my ancestor Mabel Maud Coleman. If they indeed ever were properly married they did so around 1902. Before that seems Louis was a bit of a rogue and was central to a rather infamous Loughborough Elopment Csae in 1892 when he was retained as a piano player at the Volunteer Hotel, was found with the proprietors wife, then ran off with her to Cheshire I think.

I just wondered if this was the place to see if anyone would be able to find any info re the court case and whether there was any further biographical information about Louis available?

Many thanks and apols if this not the kind of look up this forum is for.

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Dumfriesshire / Grey Horse Inn, Friars Vennel, Dumfries
« on: Wednesday 14 September 11 16:26 BST (UK)  »
Looking for anybody with any knowlegde or information about the Grey Horse Inn/Hotel in Friars Vennel in Dumfries. The limit of my knowledge is that it was in the upper part of the vennel backing on to the site of the old Greyfriars monastry.

My family link is through the hotelkeepers - the Irvines. I'd be particularly delighted to know if there was any way of finding out if the Irvines actually owned the hotel, and secondly , if there is any evidence it was bought for them by a lady called Johanna Mounsey Gordon - probably around 1830-40 or so.

Thanks.

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Occupation Interests / Actors/musicians: Mabel Maud Coleman (Beaufort)/Louis Beaufort
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 12:38 BST (UK)  »
Mabel Maud Coleman was born in Dundee in 1880. She was my GG Aunt. She apears on the 1891 Scottish Census but cannot be found on the 1901 Scottish or England census.

She next crops up as the informant of her fathers death in 1907 (in Dundee). Her name by then is Mabel Beaufort and she is noted as living in Kent.

In 1911 England Census she is living in Manchester as the wife of a Louis Beaufort (age 50), a musician, she is down as an actress. I can find no evidence of a marriage between them.

Louis, has an interesting past. Seems he is from NSW in Australia, but cannot find any records of his brith or family there. What is certain is he plied his trade as a musician on ships between UK and Australia around 1895-7. However, he was in UK around 1891 as he was prosecuted after running away with a hotel keepers wife and charged with theft (acquitted tho!). He marries a Fammy Elizabeth Steophens in 1895 and has a son - Louis Ormez (Ormez is the name of the ship he worked on). They turn up in the 1901 Scottish census lioving in Paisley where he seems to have been the manager of the Empire Music Hall there.

Louis died in Sept 1923 in Manchester and is buried in a public grave in the Southern Cemetery.

Of Mabel, I cannot find anything on her after the 1911 census.

Both of them crop up in searches of The Stage Archive but I don't have menbership to see the full articles.

Any UK theatre experts out there who might have a steer on where to turn to for any possible information?

Many thanks.

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Lancashire / Manchester Southern Cemetery
« on: Friday 09 September 11 15:56 BST (UK)  »
My ancester, Mabel Maud Coleman (b Dundee 1880) was allegedly married to a Louis Beaufort of NSW Australia. A  Musician and former THeatre Manager. They crop up as married on the 1911 census, living in Manchester but no record of their marriage exists.

Louis died in Sept 1923 and is buried in Manchester Southern Cemetery - Grave number 787, position 9 (Roman Catholic).

I'm not sure if it is appropriate/permitted through these bulletin boards (and apologies of it is not) to aski if anyone is visiting the cemetery they can get a photo/transcript of the headstone?

Would be much appreciated if possible, and again, profound apologies if this is an inappropriate request.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Coleman - Dundee
« on: Friday 01 July 11 15:37 BST (UK)  »
Piecing together the Coleman's of Dundee in late 1800s.

Henry Coleman was born in West Midlands and had been married twice already (to unknown spouses) before marrying Annie Nicklin in Birmingham 27/05/1878

At some point they moved to Dundee where Henry became a Brussels carpet weaver and later a licensee or spirit dealer (a bit unclear) They had 5 children: Edward (c.1877); Mabel Maud (c 1881); Lilian (c1884); Harry (c 1887) and Frederick (c 1891 and my direct ancestor).

Henry senior is on the 1891 census for Dundee, but not the 1901, however he died in Dundee in 1907. His wife seemingly went on to marry a James Gordon but I can't find a record of this marriage though it does say they were married on Annie's death cert from 1940 (in irvine).

Something strange going on with his daughter Mabel as well whoe was the informant on Henry;s death cert, but written as Mabel Beaufort of Ashford, Kent. She turns up on 1911 England census as married to Louis Beaufort - he is at least 30 years her senior and a musician. He dies in1923 and Mabel disappears.

Anything on this would be welcome.

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Australia / Louis BEAUFORD
« on: Friday 01 July 11 12:21 BST (UK)  »
Trying to find information on Louis Beaufort who married a relative of mine. However, a few problems. He's in the census for 1911 as married to my relative (Mabel Maud Coleman b c 1881 in Dundee, Scotland) who was an actress and indicated as a native of New South Wales and a musician. They were married as far back as 1907 for sure (Mabel Beaufort is the notifier on her father's death certifiacte in Dundee in 1907) but no UK record of their marriage appears to exist.

He was recorded as 50 years at that time but not convinced that is accurate. He died in Chrlton cum hardy in 1923.

It also looks like he was a theatrical agent in the UK in 1890s and there is a record of a Louis Beaufort marriage in 1895 that isn't to Mabel. Mabel seems to disaapear after 1911 with no records apparent (in UK at least).

So basically, who on earth was Louis Beaufort? Is this his real name, or possibly a theatrical sounding nom de plume? Did Mabel emmigrate?

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