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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Wednesday 23 October 13 15:15 BST (UK)  »
George,
My information about the Collins connection is sadly lacking. I do not have the information for which your are looking. All the best.
Dave

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Derry (Londonderry) / Pollocks in Derry
« on: Saturday 27 October 12 12:25 BST (UK)  »
I have Ann Pollock (1768-1840) who married David McClorg (1750-1836) of Templemoyle, Londonderry.
I'm fairly certain that her father was David Pollock (1742-1794) who married Hester George (1746-1789).
Ann had a brother, David (1768-1802) who married Martha Westbey (1769-1848) and emigrated to Pensylvania.
Somewhere I picked up that David Pollock (1742-1794) was a son of Thomas Pollock (1695-1790) and Mary Cochran. Can anyone confirm that Ann's father was David and that David's father was Thomas?
There are letters written to Ann & David McClorg on my web site at www.maclurg.com and there are many references to Pollocks there.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Witherow families, Aughlish, Gallony, Belfast and elsewhere
« on: Sunday 09 September 12 13:04 BST (UK)  »
I have a book that has been staring at me from my shelf every since my father died 10 years ago. Its called The Autobiography of Thomas Witherow 1824 - 1890. It was published by the ballinascreen Historical society in 1990 on the centernary ofThomas Witherow's death. He was born in Aughlish and became Presbyterian minister of maghera nd then first Professor of Churgh History in Magee College Londonderry.
As you might suspect is mostly about church history but he does talk about his famly a little.
Here is his ancestry that I have put together from what I have read so far.

James Witherow had a small farm in Aughlish
born 1759 in Aughlish
died 1845 in Aughlish
m
Jane Chambers one of 3 daughters of  Hugh Chambers of Upperland
died 1839

They had 4 sons and three daughters
Hugh born 1787 was the eldest
Thomas
James
He does not give the name of the other son or any of the daughters

Hugh married Elizabeth Martin daughter of Thomas Martin
Hugh inherited the farm from his father.

Hugh and Elizabeth had 4 sons
Thomas the author of the autobiography
Robert inherited the farm and when he died intestate it was sold.
The other two died young

Thomas was born on 29 May 1824
he married Catherine Milling on 13 April 1859

He had 3 sons two of whom died in infancy
The third was Rev James Milling Witherow
His daughters were
Mrs W Adams
Mrs D Craig,
Mrs A Gilchrist
Mrs Dr Hamilton
Mrs H M Knox
Miss J Witherow

Hope this is of interest to some one.

Dave MacLurg

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Friday 05 August 11 18:02 BST (UK)  »
I've been trying to find out more about Witherows and got this reply

--1821 census Auglish, Banagher [T808/15137]
--
--No 4
--Joseph Witherow, aged 60 farmer of 12 acres
--Mary, wife, 56
--James, 26
--George, 23
--Joseph, 15
--Mary, 20 * [could be your Mary who married John Collins?]
--Fanny, 13


from Gortinanima
on Witherow families, Aughlish, Gallony, Belfast and elsewhere

This Mary looks like she is mine. Maybe her younger sister Fanny also married a Collins.
Let me know if you find anything.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Witherow families, Aughlish, Gallony, Belfast and elsewhere
« on: Monday 14 March 11 20:48 GMT (UK)  »
I have a Mary Witherow who married John Collins. She was born about 1801 in Aughlish I believe.
Can any of you throw any light on her?
I have posted previously about Colllins of Desertmartin and this is a branch to the Witherows

Thanks

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Wednesday 09 March 11 21:58 GMT (UK)  »
The 1911 Census  ties in some data and clarifies some.

Aghadowey mentioned that the 1901 census had a Stewart Collins visiting a John Hassan. Also the 1901 census had John Collins and wife Agnes living at Longfield

I had a sister of Stewart and John married to Alexander H Mussen.

What the 1911 census shows is the family of John Collins and Agnes. Their oldest daughter is named Martha Mussen Collins so these all show a close relationship between the Mussens and the Collins as well as tying together the information about John and Stewart and Agnes. The 1911 census shows Agnes' parents living with them and this shows he maiden name to be Smyth.

Regards
Dave

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Tuesday 08 March 11 23:04 GMT (UK)  »
Susan,

Send me your email so I can send you a family tree from my computer showing all I know of the Collins descendants. My email address is (*)

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Tuesday 08 March 11 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
I attach some images of interest. from a family bible. They show the brith dates of William (my great grandfather) who married Mary Collins, Sara Ann (your great grandmother), Elizabeth and Mary. These are the children of Alexander and Elizabeth McClorg.
An interesting footnote. You see Mary was scored out and written in again. She eloped with a farmhand and was persued by her father who caught up with them at the quay in Derry City. A fight ensued and Alexander lost and eye or at least damaged it. The Cork Examiner has an article describing a retailiatory attack by the farmhand's relatives who invaded the house at Templemoyle and attackes Alexander and his som William. We speculate (no evidence available) that Mary was scored out when she eloped but written back in by her mother later.
You can see photographs of William mcClorg and mary Collind on my web site at http://www.maclurg.com/Genealogy/index.htm

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Collins family of Longfield, Desertmartin
« on: Thursday 03 February 11 22:11 GMT (UK)  »
Susan, From my family tree:-
John Collins married Mary Witherow who was born in 1801 in Dungiven, Co. Londonderry

They had 5 children
John Collins m Sara Moreland and died in Ballymena
Stuart Collins m(1) Martha Crossit m(2) Mary Anne Clark
James Collins m 1852 Sarah Ann McClorg b 1836 (your great grandparents)
Jane Collins b 1836 m 1861 Henry brown b1830
Mary Collins b1838 d1918 m1868 William McClorg b1832 d1920 (my great grandparents)

John and Sara had 4 children Stuart, William, Hubert & Sadie

Stuart and Martha had 3 children I know of Martha, Stewart, John and according to aghadowey 2 more Essie and Richard

James and Sarah Ann had 3 children; John who went to NZ, Alexander James & Elizabeth who married William Bradley

Jane and Henry Brown had 6 children; Tom, John, Joseph, Martha, Harry,Sam most seem to have gone to Toronto, Canada

Mary and William McClorg had 5 children; Alexander (My grandfather), Anna, John
 David (from who I got much of my information), Martha (who married John Smythe and went to New Zealand where their son, Arch, died in 2004)

The 1901 Census has Sara Anne Collins (no mention of James, her husband).  living in the household of Blanche May Collins. Blanche was the wife of Alexander James Collins (your grandfather's brother) The 1911 census has Alexander at home (he was a commercial traveller in woolens) but there is no mention of Sara Ann who had, presumably, died.

1901 census has John Collins in Longfield married to Agnes.This John Collins would be the son of Stewart Collins and Martha Crossit

1901 and 1911 Census have Henry Brown and household in Ballygowan

McClorg was the spelling of my family name up until my grandfater , Alexander) and his siblings changed it to MacLurg because they thought it was the original spelling of the name when the family came from Scotland back in 1600s

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