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US Lookup Requests / Re: Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Friday 30 April 10 10:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking. I am not sure I will ever get to the bottom of this one.
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US Lookup Requests / Re: Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Wednesday 28 April 10 22:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, this will be very interestiong if I can link it to Francis Boston.
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US Lookup Requests / Re: Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Tuesday 27 April 10 18:46 BST (UK) »
That would be excellent thank you.
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US Lookup Requests / Re: Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Monday 22 February 10 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.
I guess it is just going to be a piece of luck that someone stumbles across a Cato who has a son called Francis in 1807 - oh and then knows that I am looking for him of course.
I guess it is just going to be a piece of luck that someone stumbles across a Cato who has a son called Francis in 1807 - oh and then knows that I am looking for him of course.
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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Pritchard
« on: Sunday 21 February 10 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, Hi Margaret
I have had a bit more of a look at this and the Cabbage Hall referred to as Frederick's birth place is an area of Anfield Liverpool. In the 1881 |census he is lving at 22 College Street Liverpool which is right in the City Centre now and has just been redeveloped as part of the Liverpool 1 centre.
Given what I have seen I think this could be the same family but we would need to piec together why our Mary disappears after her husndamd's death in 1848 but years later has had a child under the same surname. If we can prove that one thing then it might explain some of it all.
Interesteing though isn't it.
Andrew
I have had a bit more of a look at this and the Cabbage Hall referred to as Frederick's birth place is an area of Anfield Liverpool. In the 1881 |census he is lving at 22 College Street Liverpool which is right in the City Centre now and has just been redeveloped as part of the Liverpool 1 centre.
Given what I have seen I think this could be the same family but we would need to piec together why our Mary disappears after her husndamd's death in 1848 but years later has had a child under the same surname. If we can prove that one thing then it might explain some of it all.
Interesteing though isn't it.
Andrew
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US Lookup Requests / Re: Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Friday 19 February 10 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Gosh, looking at the number of replies most posters get on this fantastic forum I have done well to go for three days without even one. So I thought I would reply to myself.
Even after 29 views no-one seems to be able to let me know if they have found information on Francis Boston, born 1807 the son of Cato Boston.
I suppose this could indicate that no records exist so it could be the end of my search, which is a shame. Perhaps he wasn't born in the US after all.
Anyway, for those who have looked and probably tried to help, thanks.
Andrew
Even after 29 views no-one seems to be able to let me know if they have found information on Francis Boston, born 1807 the son of Cato Boston.
I suppose this could indicate that no records exist so it could be the end of my search, which is a shame. Perhaps he wasn't born in the US after all.
Anyway, for those who have looked and probably tried to help, thanks.
Andrew
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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Pritchard
« on: Thursday 18 February 10 15:56 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if this is the same Boston family but there must be a chance.
My grandma lived to a ripe old age, 99 died in 1997.
There was always a story in the family that her father, who had died when she was only 2, had been black or mixed race. This was borne out by the fact that her half sisters had completely different features.
These stories also suggested there was something to do with a ships captain marrying someone.
Anyway, I found out that her grandmother was called Lourina Boston and she had been born in Liverpool in 1848.
Census showed that by 1851 Lourina was being looked after in Runcorn by her mother's family.
Lourina went on to be married twice. Firstly to John Gough with whiom she had three children including my great grandfather, and then to James Whitney with whom she had a whole clutch of kids.
Anyway, her mother was called Mary Stubbs (born in Northwich) and we soon found out she had married a man called Francis Boston in Liverpool in 1847. That was where my information dried up because I couldn't find any mention of Mary or Francis after the birth of Lourina.
That was until I came across a descendant of Lourina via the Whitney line. She confirmed that there was undoubtedly black skin in Lourina's family and she did have some more documents including Francis and Mary's wedding certificate and his death certificate. He died shortly after Lourina was born in 1848 which would explain why the child ended up with her grandparents.
There is no explanation as to the whereabouts of Mary (who would be Boston now) so I can only assume that she had remarried and her new husband didn't want to take on a child of mixed race.
At the same time Mary and Francis' wedding certificate lists his father's name as Cato Boston and there is no record of that name in the UK. There is however plenty of mentions of Cato Boston in the USA and they are all in relation to either slaves or freed slaves.
So I was very interested to see in the posts on this thread the name Mary Boston linked to Liverpool. It is the only time I have been able to find it and, perhaps, if you too have been struggling to understand where the Boston name comes from then perhaps it is due to the same reason that I have.
I reckon my Mary Boston was born in about 1825 (given that Lourina was born in 1848) so for her to be 77 in 1901 would be spot on.
As I have said I am not sure it is the same Mary Boston but there has to be a chance.
I wonder if Mary Boston is the first mother in law of Emma Morris and perhaps Ada is not Peter Morris's daughter.
I also find the 1881 mention of Frederick Boston and Emma interesting as they are listed at Cabbage Hall. That is very interesting because Cabbage Hall still exists. I used to live very close to it but it was in Runcorn not Liverpool and very close to where Lourina was brought up by her grandparents.
If Frederick was Mary's son then the ages would fit too, though he too would have had to have been born out of wedlock - not that that seemd to matter.
I know I have probably confused you even nmore but I think we could be onto something.
My grandma lived to a ripe old age, 99 died in 1997.
There was always a story in the family that her father, who had died when she was only 2, had been black or mixed race. This was borne out by the fact that her half sisters had completely different features.
These stories also suggested there was something to do with a ships captain marrying someone.
Anyway, I found out that her grandmother was called Lourina Boston and she had been born in Liverpool in 1848.
Census showed that by 1851 Lourina was being looked after in Runcorn by her mother's family.
Lourina went on to be married twice. Firstly to John Gough with whiom she had three children including my great grandfather, and then to James Whitney with whom she had a whole clutch of kids.
Anyway, her mother was called Mary Stubbs (born in Northwich) and we soon found out she had married a man called Francis Boston in Liverpool in 1847. That was where my information dried up because I couldn't find any mention of Mary or Francis after the birth of Lourina.
That was until I came across a descendant of Lourina via the Whitney line. She confirmed that there was undoubtedly black skin in Lourina's family and she did have some more documents including Francis and Mary's wedding certificate and his death certificate. He died shortly after Lourina was born in 1848 which would explain why the child ended up with her grandparents.
There is no explanation as to the whereabouts of Mary (who would be Boston now) so I can only assume that she had remarried and her new husband didn't want to take on a child of mixed race.
At the same time Mary and Francis' wedding certificate lists his father's name as Cato Boston and there is no record of that name in the UK. There is however plenty of mentions of Cato Boston in the USA and they are all in relation to either slaves or freed slaves.
So I was very interested to see in the posts on this thread the name Mary Boston linked to Liverpool. It is the only time I have been able to find it and, perhaps, if you too have been struggling to understand where the Boston name comes from then perhaps it is due to the same reason that I have.
I reckon my Mary Boston was born in about 1825 (given that Lourina was born in 1848) so for her to be 77 in 1901 would be spot on.
As I have said I am not sure it is the same Mary Boston but there has to be a chance.
I wonder if Mary Boston is the first mother in law of Emma Morris and perhaps Ada is not Peter Morris's daughter.
I also find the 1881 mention of Frederick Boston and Emma interesting as they are listed at Cabbage Hall. That is very interesting because Cabbage Hall still exists. I used to live very close to it but it was in Runcorn not Liverpool and very close to where Lourina was brought up by her grandparents.
If Frederick was Mary's son then the ages would fit too, though he too would have had to have been born out of wedlock - not that that seemd to matter.
I know I have probably confused you even nmore but I think we could be onto something.
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US Lookup Requests / Francis Boston born 1807
« on: Wednesday 17 February 10 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Good morning and I hope someone may be able to help me.
In 1848 my great, great, great grandfather Francis Boston died in Liverpool, England, just a few months after his daughter Lourina was born.
Family legend and physical appearance throughout generations, confirmed by the research I have done so far, suggest strongly that Francis (who was listed as a boarding house keeper on his marriage and death certificates) was black.
On his marriage certficate from 1847 it states that his father's name was Cato and that he was a livery worker.
We also know from his death certificate that he was born in 1807 but there is no suggestion as to where he was born.
A google search from Cato Boston finds several mentions from the USA, mostly as slaves but some as free men, but all do seem to be black.
I would absolutely love to be able to find out where and when Francis was born and who exactly Cato was.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew
In 1848 my great, great, great grandfather Francis Boston died in Liverpool, England, just a few months after his daughter Lourina was born.
Family legend and physical appearance throughout generations, confirmed by the research I have done so far, suggest strongly that Francis (who was listed as a boarding house keeper on his marriage and death certificates) was black.
On his marriage certficate from 1847 it states that his father's name was Cato and that he was a livery worker.
We also know from his death certificate that he was born in 1807 but there is no suggestion as to where he was born.
A google search from Cato Boston finds several mentions from the USA, mostly as slaves but some as free men, but all do seem to be black.
I would absolutely love to be able to find out where and when Francis was born and who exactly Cato was.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew
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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Pritchard
« on: Tuesday 16 February 10 19:15 GMT (UK) »
I know this is a very old post but did you ever get to the bottom of your Boston link.
If not I think I might have some information that could help as I am having all on with the Boston's myself.
If so I would be interested to hear.
Andrew
If not I think I might have some information that could help as I am having all on with the Boston's myself.
If so I would be interested to hear.
Andrew
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