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Wexford / Re: Shudall Family
« on: Thursday 01 November 18 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
sponsors  Joanna Lumley and ? Walsh

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The baptism was found in the Holy Trinity, Waterford Register - dated November 1822

I did not want to pre-empt your interpretation - I agree Johana Lumley - now I think that is in fact John Lumley (who was the brother of William - Lilian's father). You do agree it was Lillian that was being baptised. I still can't quite decipher who her mother was (I have a hunch but would like your view). Maria (Mary) Corcoran or Coughlin is how I read it. Any advances on that

It would be very helpful if all parish register extracts could come with a comment on where they are from. I can't tell readily, and even though I know it is almost certain to be found somewhere in this long thread, I don't have the energy to read the whole thing to find out....

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Wexford / Re: Shudall Family
« on: Thursday 01 November 18 14:47 GMT (UK)  »
sponsors  Joanna Lumley and ? Walsh

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I did not want to pre-empt your interpretation - I agree Johana Lumley - now I think that is in fact John Lumley (who was the brother of William - Lilian's father). You do agree it was Lillian that was being baptised. I still can't quite decipher who her mother was (I have a hunch but would like your view). Maria (Mary) Corcoran or Coughlin is how I read it. Any advances on that

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Wexford / Re: Shudall Family
« on: Thursday 01 November 18 14:12 GMT (UK)  »
R Knox and Maria Knox

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Cheers Hallmark. Got another I think it is Lilian Lumley born to William - can you confirm it is Lillian and the parents names in full as well as sponsors, please

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Wexford / Re: Shudall Family
« on: Thursday 01 November 18 12:22 GMT (UK)  »
Jimbo, I am a descendant of Charles Shudall of Lough. When you have done a three post to this website you will then be able to send me a PM (personal message). I  am interested in the hutchings connection as I have another connection to that name you might be able to help me with.
As far as the Humphries line I have had no luck in placing Hannah. Does anyone know any more about the Humphries family????
 Katharine.

HallmarK,

 Hope you are well

Can you identify who were witnesses to the marriage of James  Lumley  and Bridget Halloran on the attached, please.


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Wexford / Re: Breen and Dowling families of Wexford
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 19:07 BST (UK)  »
Well, let me add another generation to your tree. Here is the baptism of Mary Holdbrook in 1814.
[Later preferred spelling appears to have been Holbrook/Hollbrook]

Name:    Mary Holdbrook    Date of Birth:    
Date of Baptism:    26-Jan-1814
Parish/District:    Wexford
County    Co. Wexford
Denomination:    Roman Catholic
Father:    John Holdbrook    
Mother:    Ellen Newport   
Sponsor 1 /Informant 1:    Richard O'Connor
Sponsor 2 /Informant 2:    Amelia Jeffries

John and Ellen had at least three other children
Anne, 13/2/1807
John 1/9/1809
?  15/11/1811

As I mentioned previously, the Holbrooks were hairdressers in Wexford for many generations. You can see later ones in the 1901 and 1911 census. On two of the baptisms, the mother's name is given as Eleanor.
Nice one...thanks for this - my motto is the answers (the evidence) are  out there. On the subject of another John born in Kent 2 or 3 years later it is feasible but then that would clash with Elizabeth Frances born in Wexford at this time. I often find census information is not always correct - our ancestors seemed to  want to provide evidence as they saw fit...

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Wexford / Re: Breen and Dowling families of Wexford
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 17:58 BST (UK)  »
As for the Raymond Dowling in England, my guess is that he is your relative. But you will have to order up the 1871 London marriage registration to be sure.
I'm pretty sure he is and not only that his twin John and father were also in London in 1891. Raymond Snr died there in 1898. I know his son John is a couple of years younger than he should be i.e. 37 rather than 35 and shows him born Kent but this has to be the twin of Raymond Edward surely or did twin die and this is a later John?

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Wexford / Re: Breen and Dowling families of Wexford
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 17:29 BST (UK)  »
So when was the Immaculate conception built. That is where Patrick Breen married Elizabeth Dowling in 1874

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Wexford / Re: Breen and Dowling families of Wexford
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 16:51 BST (UK)  »

I now have the marriage entry for Raymond Dowling and Mary Holebrooke parents of Elizabeth - see attached. It is taken from the NLI catholic registers. I suspect it is the Church of the Immaculate Conception, Wexford Town. Took place 11 November 1838

No, not Rowe St. That church was only constructed in the 1850s (1851-1858).
Marriage would have been in the Franciscan Friary.
Happy to accept your suggestion it is the Franciscan Friary -  NLI does not name the church itself. Have also found what appears to be the records of Raymond Dowling (Jnr). Raymond Dowling is certainly not a common name. What also looks intriguing is he is a customs waterman (1891) or is  it a coincidence 2 Raymond Dowling's (of Ireland) worked in customs

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Wexford / Re: Breen and Dowling families of Wexford
« on: Thursday 18 October 18 15:11 BST (UK)  »
Does this La Strada Historical society have a website?   I can't find one.  I was not aware that the Breens lived anywhere else but La Grange, Illinois, which is just outside of Chicago.  I would love to talk more about the Lumley's too.
Thanks

I now have the marriage entry for Raymond Dowling and Mary Holebrooke parents of Elizabeth - see attached. It is taken from the NLI catholic registers. Wexford Flyer suggests it was at the Franciscan Friary, Wexford Town. Took place 11 November 1838. If you follow this thread I have information about Raymond E Dowling Jnr) his twin brother John and their father Raymond Snr who died in London in 1898. Adding copies of official marriage and death registrations fro Patrick Joseph Breen and Elizabeth Frances Dowling

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