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South Africa / Re: Death records Durban area
« on: Monday 14 October 19 12:01 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the offer, however the family story about my ancestor running of to South Africa and dying has turned out to all be family fabrication. Further recent investigation and confirmation through DNA has established he ran off to America and lived a reasonable long life.

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South Africa / Death records Durban area
« on: Tuesday 09 July 19 09:42 BST (UK)  »
I need information on how to look up and obtain a death record for an ancester I belived died in South Africa c1884 - 1890 possible the Durban area, is there a national data base or is it more area based? Any guidence would help try to find this individual.
Thanks

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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: Apprentice Law Clerk
« on: Monday 08 July 19 20:36 BST (UK)  »
He is only on the Birth Certificate so must have been present at the registration, as my grandfather was given his surname. He is not in Elgin in the 1881 Census or the valuation roll of 1885 for Elgin, he was proberbly a lodger in 1884 and I have looked at the tennants of where he lodged for 1881 and 1885 but can establish no connection. I have a spreadsheet of all Hugh Adams or Adam for 1881 to eliminate individuals and although there are some potential suspects through age or location, unfortunatley no hard evidance. family hearsay has Hugh Adams and my great grandmother being shipped of to relatives in South Africa, where he died and she returned to her family in Elgin, still single.

Thank you for the suggestion about the law firms I can get a list from an 1886 Elgin directory I have downloaded and cross reference it with current law firms in Elgin.

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Moray (Elginshire) / Apprentice Law Clerk
« on: Monday 08 July 19 19:37 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have any knowledge or information on finding some form of register for Apprentice Law Clerks c1884 working in a law practice in Elgin. I am unfamiliar with the Scottish legal system but would assume an app rentership would have some form of official documentation when the young person began with the law firm. I have try ed the 'Go ogle' method but cannot seem to get any information about this topic, I have a mystry Great Grandfather who's only clue was that he was an Apprentice Law Clerk living in Elgin in 1884 and old enough to father my Illegitimate Grandfather

Any information, help or guidance gratefully accepted

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Kent / Re: East Wickham Hutments, Bexley
« on: Tuesday 09 January 18 19:25 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks chempat for the list , the reg office is now Greenwich and they advice on their site to use the GRO for certificates, does not look like a helpful office like some I have used. I will use your list and see if I can eliminate any names before I apply for certificates or it could be a costly business.

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Kent / Re: East Wickham Hutments, Bexley
« on: Friday 05 January 18 11:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again, If I do have more time for research on this thread and get anything new about the Hutments I will post it. As for the mysterious Edith the fact that after WJE Cowling death in 1959 she continued to work for Ms Serle for a short time she then moved in to 3 Philipots (Blunts Road), Eltham  Woolwich into what was an Alms house, makes me consider that that might be the area she was from and some connection to be able to get an Alms house. She must have been placed in a nursing home prior to death as that is where she died on the death cert, which was registers by someone else living in a nearby almshouse, This same neighbor organised her cremation. To find her identity might be a job of elimination that would take a lot of time, somewhere there was an Edith, if she used her first name born in 1885 if she used her correct dob that ended up with WJE Cowling
Thanks all Carol

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Kent / Re: East Wickham Hutments, Bexley
« on: Tuesday 02 January 18 10:55 GMT (UK)  »
Yes  but he died I  1928

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Kent / Re: East Wickham Hutments, Bexley
« on: Monday 01 January 18 17:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Edith's DOB on the 1939 reg was 28 Feb 1885. Although she called herself Edith Cowling there was no one of that name born at that time. Her age at death was 83 on death cert so that fits. WJE Cowling lied about his age in 1939, he was younger than the age he gave, which might have helped him avoid service during the war... he did have a history of dishonesty and failed to pay maintenance to wife and two children in Yorkshire. He did use the name Ernest and there is another William John Ernest Cowling who lived with an Edith Rosina Cowling nee Wilson/Dossett around at the time which has led to a false trail, possibly related, he originated from Truro Cornwall born 1894. I have ER's from 1932 - 1939 Woolwich  they then turn up as housekeepers in Chislehurst 1946 - 1959, after his death Edith returns to Woolwich till her death in 1969. The elderly relative thinks she was a married women with children before she ran off with my WJE and there are a lot of Edith's born in the 1885 quarter, if she did live in the hutments she could have been local or one of the many who came to work in the area like WJE Cowling. Any incite or suggestions would be appreciated or she may remain the women of mystery.
thanks Carol

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Kent / Re: East Wickham Hutments, Bexley
« on: Monday 01 January 18 13:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the renewed interest. I was able to do further research into the Hutments, WJE Cowling left his wife Maud and children for another married women from this area, who although I have never found a marriage record (he was never divorced), she lived the rest of her life as Edith Cowling including registering as his wife in the 1939. They both ended their days in Chislehurst and had their ashes placed in  Eltham, there were no children and her death was registered by a neighbour but who Edith was remains a mystery.  The elderly relative now aged 95 still has memories of this short time she spent in the Hutments, the people they lodged with, the local cinema burning down and her father abandoning them but she would still like to know who this Edith was I have tried but failed.
Thanks for the link
Carol

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