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Hi Alli,

Yes, I have all of those details. My ggg-grandmother was Maria Anne Dight Wilment, daughter of Richard and his first wife Maria Slade. They had 7 children, all baptised in Crewkerne. Richard married Jane two years after Maria's death. It's the previous generations that have me stumped!

Cheers
Rebecca

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Hi Susan,

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. This is the first time in weeks that at least one person in this house hasn't been ill with one lurgy or another.

The parentage my Richard Dight Wilment has been an irritation to me for a few years now.  He was baptised in Curry Mallet in 1776 as Richard Wilment, no mention of Dight, and no parents were named. There were a couple of branches of Wilments in Curry Mallet at the time, but most are either fully accounted for at that time or disappeared entirely. The possibilities as I see them are:

1) He was a legitimate son of an unknown couple, and his mother married a Dight after his father died - I thought this for a while, but I know now that this is not correct (at least, there is no evidence that this was the case).

2) Richard Wilment and Susannah Dight had my Richard illegitimately and married when he was 7 - I have several problems with this theory. Illegitimate children are baptised with their mother's name, so he should have been baptised as Richard Dight if this was the case. Also, why marry 7 years later? I don't think this option holds water at all. Incidentally, Richard and Susannah's marriage, and the birth of Susannah in 1795, both appear in the Dight family bible; there is no mention of young Richard.

3) Richard Wilment had an earlier marriage and Richard Dight Wilment is the son of that marriage. I haven't been able to find either another marriage for Richard, or the death of a woman who could have been his wife.

4) A Wilment woman, possibly Richard senior's unmarried sister Elizabeth, had young Richard as an illegitimate son. This is my preferred theory but I haven't been able to prove it. Elizabeth Wilment died in 1798, still unmarried at age 58. Dight could have been his father's surname.

I'm sure there are other possibilities (there were other branches of the family but they seem to have left the village - maybe one came back?) but these are the ones I have considered. I'm sure there is a relationship between your Susannah Wilment and my Richard, but I don't think it is as close as brother and sister. There weren't any other Wilment children baptised in Curry Mallet for at least 10 years either side of Richard Dight Wilment's birth, so I can't even slot him into an existing family. It really is very frustrating.

I'll be only too happy to share any breakthroughs, but I have to say I'm not hopeful. I do have an extended Wilment tree on Rootsweb (Statham tree). Have you looked at the Symonds family websitewasfu-man-symondspedigree.blogspot.com which has some information about the Dight family?

Rebecca

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Essex / Stray - Richard ROBINSON, Essex
« on: Wednesday 13 April 11 11:53 BST (UK)  »
I am in the process of indexing an LDS batch of Essex parish records and have come across a stray (no origin apparently known at the time). I apologise if there is a specific place to post strays - please feel free to move this message!

Sorry, the parish is not identified in the pages, but the reference to Woodside Green in the burial record should help to locate it.


1708
Richard Robinson (as his name was supposed by a letter in his pocket), a way faring man, who dyd in John Archer's barne in Woodside Green, was buried July the 30th.



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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: RIGBY in Southwark
« on: Thursday 15 July 10 13:13 BST (UK)  »
 ;D I just found the same entry, indexed as Kitty Rigly. I was typing a message about it but you beat me to it.

"Not born in county" isn't particularly helpful *sigh*.

I can't conclusively say that she is my Catherine, but she looks like a promising candidate. It would explain why we've never been able to find a marriage for her. If it is her, she would have only been 19 or so when she was transported.

Thank you very much for your help Shaun, I really appreciate your time!

Rebecca

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: RIGBY in Southwark
« on: Thursday 15 July 10 11:21 BST (UK)  »
What a shame, the census would have given me an idea of how far afield I need to look for her birth (assuming that was her), limited though the 1841 census is. In what county was Clifton Street?

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Buckinghamshire / Re: Tuffield/Tockfield in Great Missenden
« on: Thursday 15 July 10 01:12 BST (UK)  »
That's brilliant Trish, thank you!

Now I just have to work out who the Hearns were to Charles and Caroline  ::)

Rebecca

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: RIGBY in Southwark
« on: Wednesday 14 July 10 09:23 BST (UK)  »
I found it! I know it doesn't say much but it's nice to have a copy of the original document for my files.

Thank you!

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Surrey Lookup Requests / Re: RIGBY in Southwark
« on: Wednesday 14 July 10 08:46 BST (UK)  »
Ooh, thank you, I didn't know about that report! Where could I get a copy of it? Is it available online?

I have a copy of her indictment, which details what she stole, but it didn't mention that it was her lodgings that she had robbed. I thought it was an awful lot for a single theft - presumably she must have been spiriting items out and pawning them over a period of time.

The spelling difference doesn't concern me. The spelling of her name would have depended entirely on the person writing it down.

Rebecca

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Buckinghamshire / Tuffield/Tockfield in Great Missenden
« on: Wednesday 14 July 10 07:56 BST (UK)  »
I have some Tuffields in my line in Great Missenden in the late 1700s-early 1800s. I've long been puzzled by how few Tuffields I was able to find, but I've just worked out that the name also appears as Tockfield, Tokefield, Tophel, Tophill, Tofil and Tofild - the spelling variations I've found are quite astounding!

Particular pieces of information I'm now looking for are:
- the birth/baptism of John Tuffield/Tockfield around 1760
- his marriage to Ann around 1780
- other children they had - I know about Richard 1786, James 1788, Mary 1791, and Bridget 1794
- marriages and/or deaths of Richard, James, Mary and Bridget
- potential fathers of Bridget Tuffield's three children (Ann 1818, Charles 1822 and Caroline 1827; Ann came to Australia with her husband John Statham in 1848)
- rmarriages and/or deaths of Bridget's children Charles and Caroline

I know there are quite a few Tockfields and Tophels just over the county border in Hertford, within 15 miles of Great Missenden, so I wouldn't be surprised to find a Hertford link.

Any assistance with this troublesome family would be most gratefully received  :)

Rebecca

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